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Your correction wasn't my point. I would prefer to live in a kinder world. I explicitly appealed to the parent's likely desires for same. If you prefer to live

by igor47 3y ago

Your correction wasn't my point. I would prefer to live in a kinder world. I explicitly appealed to the parent's likely desires for same. If you prefer to live in a world where people are casual dicks to one another, then I guess there's nothing to take away from my original comment.

bheadmaster 3y ago
And I would prefer to live in a world where people can say what they mean, without having to censor or sugarcoat their speech because someone else prefers not to hear their words. Different people have different preferences. Can't you just leave it at that? Why do you have to go around telling people not to say stuff you dislike in a public forum?
- igor47 3y ago
  If you truly believe what you just wrote, why did you write it? Didn't you, in effect, dislike what I said and tell me not to say it? The whole point of forums is to productively disagree and hopefully learn something. It's not sugar coating to avoid being casually mean or dismissive -- it's advancing the very reason we're supposedly here.
  - Jensson 3y ago
    Original attacked a concept, you attacked an individual. Don't equate the two. The first person who starts to attack an individual will be told to stop, that is the only reasonable way to make people stop attacking individuals so we can argue freely.
    - raffraffraff 3y ago
      Oh snap. I just said a long-winded version of the same (didn't see because HN is gloriously old-fashioned)
    - bheadmaster 3y ago
      I couldn't have said it better. Thank you for the eloquent explanation.
  - raffraffraff 3y ago
    I don't normally get into this type of conversation, and I don't mean to pile-on either, but I think that the target of the dismissiveness is a distinction worth pointing out. The post that you originally replied to was dismissive about some mindfulness techniques. You made it more personal, accusing the poster of being dismissive. This is directed at a person. It's less abstract, and their more likely to cause offence or annoyance. My general rule is that I try to have thicker skin when it comes to assaults on ideas, and be careful not to offend persons.
rewmie 3y ago
> I would prefer to live in a kinder world. OP is being kind to everyone by allowing them to avoid the frustration of wasting time with something that adds no value. You on the other hand are being needlessly confrontational just because someone has an opinion you don't like.

by igor47 3y ago

bheadmaster 3y ago

And I would prefer to live in a world where people can say what they mean, without having to censor or sugarcoat their speech because someone else prefers not to hear their words. Different people have different preferences. Can't you just leave it at that? Why do you have to go around telling people not to say stuff you dislike in a public forum?

igor47 3y ago
If you truly believe what you just wrote, why did you write it? Didn't you, in effect, dislike what I said and tell me not to say it? The whole point of forums is to productively disagree and hopefully learn something. It's not sugar coating to avoid being casually mean or dismissive -- it's advancing the very reason we're supposedly here.
- Jensson 3y ago
  Original attacked a concept, you attacked an individual. Don't equate the two. The first person who starts to attack an individual will be told to stop, that is the only reasonable way to make people stop attacking individuals so we can argue freely.
  - raffraffraff 3y ago
    Oh snap. I just said a long-winded version of the same (didn't see because HN is gloriously old-fashioned)
  - bheadmaster 3y ago
    I couldn't have said it better. Thank you for the eloquent explanation.
- raffraffraff 3y ago
  I don't normally get into this type of conversation, and I don't mean to pile-on either, but I think that the target of the dismissiveness is a distinction worth pointing out. The post that you originally replied to was dismissive about some mindfulness techniques. You made it more personal, accusing the poster of being dismissive. This is directed at a person. It's less abstract, and their more likely to cause offence or annoyance. My general rule is that I try to have thicker skin when it comes to assaults on ideas, and be careful not to offend persons.

rewmie 3y ago

> I would prefer to live in a kinder world. OP is being kind to everyone by allowing them to avoid the frustration of wasting time with something that adds no value. You on the other hand are being needlessly confrontational just because someone has an opinion you don't like.