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https://www.cygwin.com/ https://www.cygwin.com/ is available since 1995

by john61 3y ago

CJefferson 3y ago
Cygwin was a great tool, and I've released some software which used cygwin, but almost all large programs ended up needing cygwin-specific patches (I maintained quite a few myself), while WSL2 (which is just a fancy VM), in my experience offers 100% linux compatibility, I've never had any issues with it except some VPN-related internet problems.
- rstuart4133 3y ago
  > I've never had any issues with it except some VPN-related internet problems. I've had to support a development environment that ran on WSL2, among other things. I regularly had developers attempt to start work in the morning only to find an overnight WSL2 update from Microsoft rendered their WSL2 instance unusable. It typically took a few hours of uninstalling / reinstalling to fix it. But in at least one case after a series of these incidents that cumulated in them spending a day trying to get it going they gave up and switched to Ubuntu. The only reason I'd use WSL2 over a real Linux install for Linux development is because of ISO 27001 / SOC 2 restrictions pushed from above. I don't have a clue why people would do it voluntarily. It's not only a fragile and incomplete implementation (especially on the networking side), it's also noticeably slower.
  - Falmarri 3y ago
    Absolutely this. It's usable, but just barely, and not even close to a replacement for a real linux system
  - CoolCold 3y ago
    While my observation is mostly limited to my laptop and couple of friends, I must day that both of those laptops are on Windows Insider, not even stable branch and I probably can remember couple of minor issues over last 3 years with WSL2, nothing like you described
redox99 3y ago
Cygwin isn't remotely comparable in terms of compatibility. With WSL2 I can train stuff with PyTorch with GPU acceleration without configuring anything. Try doing that with cygwin.

https://www.cygwin.com/ https://www.cygwin.com/ is available since 1995

by john61 3y ago

https://www.cygwin.com/ https://www.cygwin.com/ is available since 1995

Cygwin was a great tool, and I've released some software which used cygwin, but almost all large programs ended up needing cygwin-specific patches (I maintained quite a few myself), while WSL2 (which is just a fancy VM), in my experience offers 100% linux compatibility, I've never had any issues with it except some VPN-related internet problems.

rstuart4133 3y ago
> I've never had any issues with it except some VPN-related internet problems. I've had to support a development environment that ran on WSL2, among other things. I regularly had developers attempt to start work in the morning only to find an overnight WSL2 update from Microsoft rendered their WSL2 instance unusable. It typically took a few hours of uninstalling / reinstalling to fix it. But in at least one case after a series of these incidents that cumulated in them spending a day trying to get it going they gave up and switched to Ubuntu. The only reason I'd use WSL2 over a real Linux install for Linux development is because of ISO 27001 / SOC 2 restrictions pushed from above. I don't have a clue why people would do it voluntarily. It's not only a fragile and incomplete implementation (especially on the networking side), it's also noticeably slower.
- Falmarri 3y ago
  Absolutely this. It's usable, but just barely, and not even close to a replacement for a real linux system
- CoolCold 3y ago
  While my observation is mostly limited to my laptop and couple of friends, I must day that both of those laptops are on Windows Insider, not even stable branch and I probably can remember couple of minor issues over last 3 years with WSL2, nothing like you described

redox99 3y ago

Cygwin isn't remotely comparable in terms of compatibility. With WSL2 I can train stuff with PyTorch with GPU acceleration without configuring anything. Try doing that with cygwin.