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It should be noted that the debris field was found for the missing fighter jet. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/f-35-fighter-jet-missing-pilot-ejects-mish

by kyrra 3y ago

It should be noted that the debris field was found for the missing fighter jet. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/f-35-fighter-jet-missing-pilot-ejects-mishap-rcna105534 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/f-35-fighter-jet-missin...

fortran77 3y ago
In fact, TFA notes this: > Officials said Monday evening that a debris field had been located about two and a half hours northeast of the base
- sokoloff 3y ago
  Ah yes, the SI unit of distance obviously being the hour. (For an aircraft mishap in particular, this is more ambiguous than usual.)
  - jedberg 3y ago
    It was probably written by a reporter based in LA, where we measure distance in hours/minutes.
    - speed_spread 3y ago
      And speed is in football fields per hour?
      - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
        Hours per gallon, actually.
      - sokoloff 3y ago
        speed is distance over time, so obviously hours-per-hour. "Traffic was really bad; we were only going half-an-hour per hour..." The kids will shorten it in slang to just the unitless dimension. "Rick's car is really fast; we got it up over 2.5 yesterday!"
        hunter2_ 3y ago
        Oddly enough, household energy consumption is often stated in kWh/year. Being that hours per year is a bit under 10,000 one can convert this kWh/year ridiculousness onto simple W, and the resulting amount is only one order of magnitude different. But I guess it helps people annualize their their electric bill (monthly statements being in kWh) without much math.
        sokoloff 3y ago
        In the course of doing some energy improvements (and considering various options), I used the rule of the thumb that 1W continuous costs $2/yr, which was more than close enough mathematically, surely made the math easier to do in my head, and was in the units of the actual tradeoff that I was making (buy an efficiency improvement for $Y, save $Z/yr).
    - dr_kretyn 3y ago
      That seems to be generally a US thing. Many of my colleagues from Texas, Washington and Virginia tell distance in minutes/hours that they (would have) spent driving. It's always funny to ask how far away someone lives and they answer "it depends". They mean that it depends on the traffic but I imagine that they live close to an orbiting massive object which curves the space.
      - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
        > It's always funny to ask how far away someone lives and they answer "it depends". I hadn’t noticed that before but I probably will now. That does seem to be a US thing. Often a person will respond in units of distance and time, one after the other. It does make sense given the effect that traffic conditions in a city can have on the travel time but “how far?” “it depends” is really funny. > I imagine that they live close to an orbiting massive object which curves the space. My thought was their home is some kind of moving fortress. A city on the back of a turtle wandering along the coast.
      - mintplant 3y ago
        I think there's an implicit cultural understanding that when someone here asks how far away something is, what they really want to know is how long it will take them to drive there.
    - majormajor 3y ago
      IMO this is the case in Texas too and it honestly works a lot better there because in LA an hour is very different at 5PM and 10PM. (Still different in TX cities, but to a lesser extent and for a smaller time period.)
    - yardstick 3y ago
      Come to think about it, time vs miles/km feels more natural in most situations I can think of. In London we would describe a journey based on time (or maybe stops, but only for very short train journeys) not distance. Same for international travel- measured in flight time not distance travelled. Because in most situations knowing how far away something is takes second place to knowing how long to get there. That’s what is relevant. Now as to this crash location, I guess it means 2 hours by car but yeah it’s more ambiguous than a more widely understood journey.
  - mohn 3y ago
    Yes, lol, that ambiguity caught my eye, too. I can't imagine they mean it ended up on the south shore of Newfoundland (2.5 hours NE at Mach 0.85)
  - mensetmanusman 3y ago
    Two hours is a common unit for storm chasers!
  - jayd16 3y ago
    The only logical explanation is its about 150 degree minutes.
- irrational 3y ago
  two and a half hours walking? riding a bike? driving in a car? flying in a jet? traveling in the ISS?
  - mey 3y ago
    Parsecs
  - bonestamp2 3y ago
    Unladen Swallow
ftxbro 3y ago
if i'm ever in the news i never want the story to be like 'debris field was found'
mvdtnz 3y ago
The article mentions this and makes it quite clear it's not the debris of the f35. > Officials said Monday evening that a debris field had been located about two and a half hours northeast of the base. > Two defense officials said Monday that although the jet was on autopilot when the pilot ejected, it does not have the range or ability to fly for such a long period without refueling.

by kyrra 3y ago

fortran77 3y ago

In fact, TFA notes this: > Officials said Monday evening that a debris field had been located about two and a half hours northeast of the base

sokoloff 3y ago
Ah yes, the SI unit of distance obviously being the hour. (For an aircraft mishap in particular, this is more ambiguous than usual.)
- jedberg 3y ago
  It was probably written by a reporter based in LA, where we measure distance in hours/minutes.
  - speed_spread 3y ago
    And speed is in football fields per hour?
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
      Hours per gallon, actually.
    - sokoloff 3y ago
      speed is distance over time, so obviously hours-per-hour. "Traffic was really bad; we were only going half-an-hour per hour..." The kids will shorten it in slang to just the unitless dimension. "Rick's car is really fast; we got it up over 2.5 yesterday!"
      - hunter2_ 3y ago
        Oddly enough, household energy consumption is often stated in kWh/year. Being that hours per year is a bit under 10,000 one can convert this kWh/year ridiculousness onto simple W, and the resulting amount is only one order of magnitude different. But I guess it helps people annualize their their electric bill (monthly statements being in kWh) without much math.
        sokoloff 3y ago
        In the course of doing some energy improvements (and considering various options), I used the rule of the thumb that 1W continuous costs $2/yr, which was more than close enough mathematically, surely made the math easier to do in my head, and was in the units of the actual tradeoff that I was making (buy an efficiency improvement for $Y, save $Z/yr).
  - dr_kretyn 3y ago
    That seems to be generally a US thing. Many of my colleagues from Texas, Washington and Virginia tell distance in minutes/hours that they (would have) spent driving. It's always funny to ask how far away someone lives and they answer "it depends". They mean that it depends on the traffic but I imagine that they live close to an orbiting massive object which curves the space.
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
      > It's always funny to ask how far away someone lives and they answer "it depends". I hadn’t noticed that before but I probably will now. That does seem to be a US thing. Often a person will respond in units of distance and time, one after the other. It does make sense given the effect that traffic conditions in a city can have on the travel time but “how far?” “it depends” is really funny. > I imagine that they live close to an orbiting massive object which curves the space. My thought was their home is some kind of moving fortress. A city on the back of a turtle wandering along the coast.
    - mintplant 3y ago
      I think there's an implicit cultural understanding that when someone here asks how far away something is, what they really want to know is how long it will take them to drive there.
  - majormajor 3y ago
    IMO this is the case in Texas too and it honestly works a lot better there because in LA an hour is very different at 5PM and 10PM. (Still different in TX cities, but to a lesser extent and for a smaller time period.)
  - yardstick 3y ago
    Come to think about it, time vs miles/km feels more natural in most situations I can think of. In London we would describe a journey based on time (or maybe stops, but only for very short train journeys) not distance. Same for international travel- measured in flight time not distance travelled. Because in most situations knowing how far away something is takes second place to knowing how long to get there. That’s what is relevant. Now as to this crash location, I guess it means 2 hours by car but yeah it’s more ambiguous than a more widely understood journey.
- mohn 3y ago
  Yes, lol, that ambiguity caught my eye, too. I can't imagine they mean it ended up on the south shore of Newfoundland (2.5 hours NE at Mach 0.85)
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  Two hours is a common unit for storm chasers!
- jayd16 3y ago
  The only logical explanation is its about 150 degree minutes.
irrational 3y ago
two and a half hours walking? riding a bike? driving in a car? flying in a jet? traveling in the ISS?
- mey 3y ago
  Parsecs
- bonestamp2 3y ago
  Unladen Swallow

ftxbro 3y ago

if i'm ever in the news i never want the story to be like 'debris field was found'

mvdtnz 3y ago

The article mentions this and makes it quite clear it's not the debris of the f35. > Officials said Monday evening that a debris field had been located about two and a half hours northeast of the base. > Two defense officials said Monday that although the jet was on autopilot when the pilot ejected, it does not have the range or ability to fly for such a long period without refueling.