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You can't even document computer code accurately. And neither can I. Gordon Ramsey can't document how to cook a steak and how to tell thats its done. 3 differe

You can't even document computer code accurately. And neither can I. Gordon Ramsey can't document how to cook a steak and how to tell thats its done. 3 different cooks will read his instructions and will end up with 3 different steaks. The idea that a lifetime of steelworking experience can be foind in books, especially by people who aren't known for love of books, is pure folly. Skills are living. They live in flesh and bone.

genmud 3y ago
I call BS. Code and any process can be documented just fine. > 3 different cooks will read his instructions and will end up with 3 different steaks Either his instructions are shit, or the cooks are donkeys. Sear steak at high heat, 1 minute, rotate steak 45 degrees, flip steak to sear back side for 1 minute, rotate steak 45 degrees. Move steak to indirect heat until internal temp probed at center of steak reaches 145F, remove steak and plate steak after resting for 4 minutes. There. If you follow those instructions you can get a perfectly done steak every. single. time. Shit is only subjective if you don’t have a repeatable way of measuring things. You absolutely can learn steel working and foundry type of stuff from books, but you have to find ways of measuring what you are doing. E.G. heat to this temp, control cooling process by means of $X, $Y, $Z. Inspect crystal structure of coupon, X-ray for porosity. It isn’t easy, but it can be done.
- fomine3 3y ago
  You can make it documented. Can other people understand completely same as you? It's a different story
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  > Code and any process can be documented just fine. Can be? perhaps. Is documented? definitely not. 90% of code is not documented, whether it is a trojan or firmware for a soda dispenser. If I find you a random piece of code that was not maintained for the last 5 years, in a random language, what is the chance that you can get it to work? 30%? > It isn’t easy, but it can be done So most of the time it isn't done. Its software engineer's job to document code, it is not the job of a machinist to document minitua of his job. In fact some proffeshions made historically a point of keeping their craft secret and passing knowledge on to an apprentice. > Code and any process can be documented just fine.

genmud 3y ago

I call BS. Code and any process can be documented just fine. > 3 different cooks will read his instructions and will end up with 3 different steaks Either his instructions are shit, or the cooks are donkeys. Sear steak at high heat, 1 minute, rotate steak 45 degrees, flip steak to sear back side for 1 minute, rotate steak 45 degrees. Move steak to indirect heat until internal temp probed at center of steak reaches 145F, remove steak and plate steak after resting for 4 minutes. There. If you follow those instructions you can get a perfectly done steak every. single. time. Shit is only subjective if you don’t have a repeatable way of measuring things. You absolutely can learn steel working and foundry type of stuff from books, but you have to find ways of measuring what you are doing. E.G. heat to this temp, control cooling process by means of $X, $Y, $Z. Inspect crystal structure of coupon, X-ray for porosity. It isn’t easy, but it can be done.

fomine3 3y ago
You can make it documented. Can other people understand completely same as you? It's a different story
ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> Code and any process can be documented just fine. Can be? perhaps. Is documented? definitely not. 90% of code is not documented, whether it is a trojan or firmware for a soda dispenser. If I find you a random piece of code that was not maintained for the last 5 years, in a random language, what is the chance that you can get it to work? 30%? > It isn’t easy, but it can be done So most of the time it isn't done. Its software engineer's job to document code, it is not the job of a machinist to document minitua of his job. In fact some proffeshions made historically a point of keeping their craft secret and passing knowledge on to an apprentice. > Code and any process can be documented just fine.