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Neither Tokyo or Barcelona are "nicer" than my hometown, though they certainly are different. I know that when I watch [videos like this video on HK "Coffin Ho

Neither Tokyo or Barcelona are "nicer" than my hometown, though they certainly are different. I know that when I watch [videos like this video on HK "Coffin Homes"](https://youtu.be/kUK11Yx3ugQ?si=nvuuCXrB3BlxKSFA https://youtu.be/kUK11Yx3ugQ?si=nvuuCXrB3BlxKSFA) I'm thinking that I definitely am in love with my R-1 zoning laws. Also, 400sqft apartments are defiantly a thing in Tokyo and NYC... and, they're not even cheap! The reality is that More Appartments != Affordable housing and cramming more people into tight spaces is inhumane.

astrange 3y ago
They're not cheap in NYC, but they are cheap in Tokyo's commuter zones, and generally speaking better in any non-Anglo country than in any Anglo country. Overcrowding actually happens when you don't build enough housing. It causes more people to live in the same housing you already have.
- vonwoodson 3y ago
  I'm reminded of an Indian here in The States named Chief Black Kettle. During the failed negotiation of the land usage of the indigenous and the white settlers, which would eventually lead to his death and the massacre of his people, the white men simply could not understand why the Indians needed "so much land" and continued to reduce the amount of reservation would be granted.. until none was left at all. The moral of the story is that a person's way of life is not defined by outsiders. "Efficient", "nicer", "Productive"... all sound like excuses for pushing people out of their homes and destroying their culture. The Indians lived on this land for a thousand years without pollution or over crowding. Only once we started building and farming did these problems surface. So, "Overcrowding actually happens when you don't build enough housing." is obviously false. Overcrowding happens when you have too many people in the same space, as a tautology.
vonwoodson 3y ago
I hate being right all the time: https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/rent-bed-pods-downtown-techies-18388110.php https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/rent-bed-pods-downtown-t...

astrange 3y ago

They're not cheap in NYC, but they are cheap in Tokyo's commuter zones, and generally speaking better in any non-Anglo country than in any Anglo country. Overcrowding actually happens when you don't build enough housing. It causes more people to live in the same housing you already have.

vonwoodson 3y ago
I'm reminded of an Indian here in The States named Chief Black Kettle. During the failed negotiation of the land usage of the indigenous and the white settlers, which would eventually lead to his death and the massacre of his people, the white men simply could not understand why the Indians needed "so much land" and continued to reduce the amount of reservation would be granted.. until none was left at all. The moral of the story is that a person's way of life is not defined by outsiders. "Efficient", "nicer", "Productive"... all sound like excuses for pushing people out of their homes and destroying their culture. The Indians lived on this land for a thousand years without pollution or over crowding. Only once we started building and farming did these problems surface. So, "Overcrowding actually happens when you don't build enough housing." is obviously false. Overcrowding happens when you have too many people in the same space, as a tautology.

vonwoodson 3y ago

I hate being right all the time: https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/rent-bed-pods-downtown-techies-18388110.php https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/rent-bed-pods-downtown-t...