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i think the parent's point would be that most people can achieve all those things without using a drug (the cholesterol and BP parts are often chronically high
by zzzeek 3y ago
i think the parent's point would be that most people can achieve all those things without using a drug (the cholesterol and BP parts are often chronically high for non-obese people but there are other medications for those things that target them more directly)
- aantix 3y ago>can achieve The longterm success number for those that lose significant weight and keep it off for many years, are abysmal.
- zzzeek 3y agosure, but my anecdotal hearsay unsubstantiated information on this is that people who are only a little bit over their ideal weight are using it so that they dont even need to apply modest efforts at staying healthy. People who are chronically morbidly obese are likely better off with the bariatric surgery approach.
- aantix 3y agoThere’s a huge cohort in between those two states.