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> If F-35 is such a failure, how come many countries have chosen to buy it? What's the alternative? How many other models can be purchased at all? Canada went

> If F-35 is such a failure, how come many countries have chosen to buy it? What's the alternative? How many other models can be purchased at all? Canada went through a bunch of drama to find a replacement for the legacy F/A-18s, and the main options were: Eurofighter Typhoon, Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, F-35, and the Saab Gripen. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II_Canadian_procurement#2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning... Gripen wasn't in the same league, so we basically have the Typhoon and SuperHornet as other options, and both were at least a decade older with regards to their 'base' design (though there have been further upgrades). So if you're going to be stuck with a plane for 20+ years, you might as well pick the newest model year. Personally I'd be happy with the Super Hornets (and thrown in some Growlers) for Canada given "6G" fighters are starting to be designed—basically skipping the "5G" F-35—but Boeing were a bunch of dumbasses when the decision was being made: * https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/18/justin-trudeau-says-canada-will-not-buy-from-boeing-while-it-is-busy-trying-to-sue-us.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/18/justin-trudeau-says-canada-w...

eevilspock 3y ago
> Personally I'd be happy with... There's a lot of armchair quarterbacking in these comments, this one taking the cake.
- 23B1 3y ago
  HN weighing in on military stuff is always comedy to those of us who've been in the military. It's nobody's fault – this stuff can be baroque in its complexity – but it does make for some entertaining reading!
  - simmerup 3y ago
    HN weighing in on anything outside of tech is comedy
    - lukev 3y ago
      Also tech, a good portion of the time.
      - debo_ 3y ago
        Management is the most comedic topic of all, but it borders on tragedy.
        civilitty 3y ago
        This thread is the HN equivalent of Dale Gribble laughing at those sheeple.
  - throwaway2037 3y ago
    Finance / economics is the same here. Medicine can be hit or miss. Sometimes medical researchers show up and do surprise.
- throw0101c 3y ago
  > There's a lot of armchair quarterbacking in these comments, this one taking the cake. If one's government is going to spend billions and billions of your money, having some level of public satisfaction for its use isn't a bad thing to have. Or at least having a decision making program that people have confidence in. The F-35 is a decent enough result, especially in comparison to what's going on with Canada's naval procurement program.

eevilspock 3y ago

> Personally I'd be happy with... There's a lot of armchair quarterbacking in these comments, this one taking the cake.

23B1 3y ago
HN weighing in on military stuff is always comedy to those of us who've been in the military. It's nobody's fault – this stuff can be baroque in its complexity – but it does make for some entertaining reading!
- simmerup 3y ago
  HN weighing in on anything outside of tech is comedy
  - lukev 3y ago
    Also tech, a good portion of the time.
    - debo_ 3y ago
      Management is the most comedic topic of all, but it borders on tragedy.
      - civilitty 3y ago
        This thread is the HN equivalent of Dale Gribble laughing at those sheeple.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  Finance / economics is the same here. Medicine can be hit or miss. Sometimes medical researchers show up and do surprise.
throw0101c 3y ago
> There's a lot of armchair quarterbacking in these comments, this one taking the cake. If one's government is going to spend billions and billions of your money, having some level of public satisfaction for its use isn't a bad thing to have. Or at least having a decision making program that people have confidence in. The F-35 is a decent enough result, especially in comparison to what's going on with Canada's naval procurement program.