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That's true I'm cherry-picking but you kind of have to when people are making impossible claims. Most of them won't come true (at least, yet) but as long as som
by autonomousErwin 3y ago
That's true I'm cherry-picking but you kind of have to when people are making impossible claims. Most of them won't come true (at least, yet) but as long as some of them come true I think that's a net positive.
- elil17 3y agoThat's still lying, even if you think it is net positive.
- autonomousErwin 3y agoTrue. 1. You don't have to believe him. 2. We still get some impossible results in the end which leads to a more interesting future.
- elil17 3y agoAnd you don't have to care that he's a liar. I care about truth, though.
- autonomousErwin 3y agoFair enough, we could probably both agree that physical results are the best outcome or promises that may/may not be true? If we have self-landing rockets you could argue all day about truth and integrity but we'll still have self-landing rockets.
- rantingdemon 3y agoI agree with you. Musk is a complicated person (smell...?). I kinda put him in the same box as Steve Jobs. They are very crappy in some ways, but you cannot argue with what they have achieved. Would we have a 'space race' like we have now, if it wasn't for Musk? Even Bezos cannot keep up. How long would the EV 'evolution' have taken if Musk didn't make it a priority? There are loads of faults here, and I am not blind to them. However, I think its short-sighted to paint his goals as "lies".
- FireBeyond 3y ago> when people are making impossible claims Making impossible claims in investor calls, in corporate communications, to be clear, to the point where the company has later had to asterisk said claims as "visionary, not targets".