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> And with 80% less saturated fat [...], they are also hailing PALM-ALT as a significantly healthier option. Doesn't sound healthy at all.

Bjartr 3y ago
Can you go into some detail as to why?
- eindiran 3y ago
  Because there is plenty of evidence that saturated fats are much better than the polyunsaturated fats that will be replacing them in this arrangement. Because people are tired of the "food science"-agriculture-industrial complex selling them magic bullets to a health epidemic of our own making than end up just getting more people obese every time. Because nutrition is one of the most fraudulent sciences at present, and no one can agree on which 90% of the literature is wrong. Because the last 70 times articles in popular nutrition were published beginning with "This could be the holy grail to ..." they were wrong.
  - jeezfrk 3y ago
    except you are really sure about saturated fats.
joe-collins 3y ago
Saturated fats convert to cholesterol, high values of which is a common health problem. So this sounds like a great health improvement? The only possible downside I see in this very thin reporting is the usual feel of ickiness some folks get out of an appeal to nature fallacy.
- Nelkins 3y ago
  There is emerging evidence that high cholesterol on its own is not sufficient to cause heart disease. See https://cholesterolcode.com/ https://cholesterolcode.com/ .
- Georgelemental 3y ago
  > Saturated fats convert to cholesterol, high values of which is a common health problem. High blood cholesterol levels is a common health problem, but it doesn't follow that consuming too much cholesterol causes high blood cholesterol levels—it could be that the body can normally handle any amount of cholesterol/cholesterol precursor consumption within a wide range, but a dysfunction in the regulation mechanism results in health problems. And in fact, double-blind trials seem to support this theory: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000743 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.00000000000... "Evidence from observational studies conducted in several countries generally does not indicate a significant association [of dietary cholesterol] with cardiovascular disease risk." > An appeal to nature fallacy The theory of natural selection predicts that human metabolism is best adapted to consuming food similar to what was available for most of our evolutionary history.
  - Kirby64 3y ago
    GP said nothing about dietary cholesterol. It's well researched that high levels of saturated fats increases blood cholesterol, though. The conversion is dietary saturated fat to blood serum cholesterol.

Bjartr 3y ago

Can you go into some detail as to why?

eindiran 3y ago
Because there is plenty of evidence that saturated fats are much better than the polyunsaturated fats that will be replacing them in this arrangement. Because people are tired of the "food science"-agriculture-industrial complex selling them magic bullets to a health epidemic of our own making than end up just getting more people obese every time. Because nutrition is one of the most fraudulent sciences at present, and no one can agree on which 90% of the literature is wrong. Because the last 70 times articles in popular nutrition were published beginning with "This could be the holy grail to ..." they were wrong.
- jeezfrk 3y ago
  except you are really sure about saturated fats.

joe-collins 3y ago

Saturated fats convert to cholesterol, high values of which is a common health problem. So this sounds like a great health improvement? The only possible downside I see in this very thin reporting is the usual feel of ickiness some folks get out of an appeal to nature fallacy.

Nelkins 3y ago
There is emerging evidence that high cholesterol on its own is not sufficient to cause heart disease. See https://cholesterolcode.com/ https://cholesterolcode.com/ .
Georgelemental 3y ago
> Saturated fats convert to cholesterol, high values of which is a common health problem. High blood cholesterol levels is a common health problem, but it doesn't follow that consuming too much cholesterol causes high blood cholesterol levels—it could be that the body can normally handle any amount of cholesterol/cholesterol precursor consumption within a wide range, but a dysfunction in the regulation mechanism results in health problems. And in fact, double-blind trials seem to support this theory: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000743 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.00000000000... "Evidence from observational studies conducted in several countries generally does not indicate a significant association [of dietary cholesterol] with cardiovascular disease risk." > An appeal to nature fallacy The theory of natural selection predicts that human metabolism is best adapted to consuming food similar to what was available for most of our evolutionary history.
- Kirby64 3y ago
  GP said nothing about dietary cholesterol. It's well researched that high levels of saturated fats increases blood cholesterol, though. The conversion is dietary saturated fat to blood serum cholesterol.