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I think you ought to look up the UN security council resolution 2202 (2015)[1] by which the Minsk agreements became part of international law. Fun trivia fact

I think you ought to look up the UN security council resolution 2202 (2015)[1] by which the Minsk agreements became part of international law. Fun trivia fact for you, in 2014 in multiple cities Ukranian soldiers defected to the east and took loads of military equipment with them[2]. Of course history has been conveniently written the entire last year. [1] https://press.un.org/en/2015/sc11785.doc.htm https://press.un.org/en/2015/sc11785.doc.htm [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20140420132508/https://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Combat-vehicles-in-east-Ukraine-fly-Russian-flag-5405860.php#photo-6173861 https://web.archive.org/web/20140420132508/https://www.chron...

petre 3y ago
Putin never wanted peace through the Mink agreements, he only wanted to buy time. But US and the UK weren't wasting time either. "Amid rising tensions between Russia and Ukraine in early 2022, Russia officially recognised the DPR and LPR on 21 February 2022.[9] Following that decision, on 22 February 2022, Russian President Vladimir Putin declared that the Minsk agreements "no longer existed", and that Ukraine, not Russia, was to blame for their collapse.[10] Russia then invaded Ukraine on 24 February 2022." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements
- rjzzleep 3y ago
  Funny you should say that, since: a) the Ukrainian forces were saved by the Minsk agreements[1] b) it was both Merkel and Hollande that said they tried to buy time using the Minsk agreements[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Debaltseve&oldid=648500390 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Debalts... [2] https://archive.ph/c4ZVK https://archive.ph/c4ZVK [3] https://kyivindependent.com/hollande-there-will-only-be-a-way-out-of-the-conflict-when-russia-fails-on-the-ground/ https://kyivindependent.com/hollande-there-will-only-be-a-wa...
- helpfulContrib 3y ago
  How do you know Putin never wanted peace with the Minsk agreements? Why were they officially ratified, then?
  - jnsaff2 3y ago
    And immediately broken. Why were "green men" invading Ukraine, putin LYING about them not being russian army and then later telling proudly that of course they were russian army.
  - petre 3y ago
    > How do you know Putin never wanted peace Happo-Kuzushi. Judoka balance breaking married with maskirovka. He basically played the naïve European leaders. The only ones who weren't played this time were the Americans and the UK who wanted to send weapons and military instructors, which they eventually did. Putin wants peace, just under his own terms. Think Belarus, only with weaker puppets he can control. What he wants is Leonid Kuchma and Vladimir Voronin type of "leaders". He doesn't want a Korean solution and it probably wouldn't work anyway because Ukraine is not a peninsula. That's what the Minsk agreements were basically proposing. Of course, everyone broke them, especially the separatists and the Russians who back them.

petre 3y ago

Putin never wanted peace through the Mink agreements, he only wanted to buy time. But US and the UK weren't wasting time either. "Amid rising tensions between Russia and Ukraine in early 2022, Russia officially recognised the DPR and LPR on 21 February 2022.[9] Following that decision, on 22 February 2022, Russian President Vladimir Putin declared that the Minsk agreements "no longer existed", and that Ukraine, not Russia, was to blame for their collapse.[10] Russia then invaded Ukraine on 24 February 2022." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

rjzzleep 3y ago
Funny you should say that, since: a) the Ukrainian forces were saved by the Minsk agreements[1] b) it was both Merkel and Hollande that said they tried to buy time using the Minsk agreements[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Debaltseve&oldid=648500390 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Debalts... [2] https://archive.ph/c4ZVK https://archive.ph/c4ZVK [3] https://kyivindependent.com/hollande-there-will-only-be-a-way-out-of-the-conflict-when-russia-fails-on-the-ground/ https://kyivindependent.com/hollande-there-will-only-be-a-wa...
helpfulContrib 3y ago
How do you know Putin never wanted peace with the Minsk agreements? Why were they officially ratified, then?
- jnsaff2 3y ago
  And immediately broken. Why were "green men" invading Ukraine, putin LYING about them not being russian army and then later telling proudly that of course they were russian army.
- petre 3y ago
  > How do you know Putin never wanted peace Happo-Kuzushi. Judoka balance breaking married with maskirovka. He basically played the naïve European leaders. The only ones who weren't played this time were the Americans and the UK who wanted to send weapons and military instructors, which they eventually did. Putin wants peace, just under his own terms. Think Belarus, only with weaker puppets he can control. What he wants is Leonid Kuchma and Vladimir Voronin type of "leaders". He doesn't want a Korean solution and it probably wouldn't work anyway because Ukraine is not a peninsula. That's what the Minsk agreements were basically proposing. Of course, everyone broke them, especially the separatists and the Russians who back them.