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> Not unless you assume that Russia is some irrational cartoonist supervillain that would cut off its own nose to spite its face. So they went to Ukraine to ga
by jnsaff2 3y ago
> Not unless you assume that Russia is some irrational cartoonist supervillain that would cut off its own nose to spite its face.
So they went to Ukraine to gain what? At the expense of what?
How would you explain why they brutally attacked Ukraine without coming to the conclusion of them being exactly what you described?
- helpfulContrib 3y agoThey went to Ukraine to take the land required to give them a buffer against NATO-aligned forces, which have called for the destruction of Russia for years - and thats exactly what they've created. Whether you like that answer or not, has no bearing on whether the cartoon-character in your head reflects reality. It clearly doesn't.
- jnsaff2 3y agoSo in 1939 did they invade Poland in defense against Nato as well? This is just such a dumb take, even the mafia bosses running the show don't believe that. Let alone Ukraine not being in NATO at all. Also I remember the rhetoric being about denazification, so apparently every russian nationalist has a different story they push.
- _kbh_ 3y ago> They went to Ukraine to take the land required to give them a buffer against NATO-aligned forces, which have called for the destruction of Russia for years - and thats exactly what they've created. Interesting cause the victory article they accidentally posted then quickly deleted didn’t even mention NATO once. But do you know what it did talk about?, the tragedy of Ukrainian independence and fixing that historical “mistake” of 1991. That sounds more like imperialism than wanting a buffer state to me.
- pydry 3y ago>So they went to Ukraine to gain what? Thats a different question entirely to who blew up the dam and why.
- jnsaff2 3y agoSo you are avoiding that question? Also it's crystal clear that if russia had not illegally invaded Ukraine no-one would have blown up the dam.