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Interesting. The article doesn't say why the pilot ejected. If the jet were able to continue flying for hours in autopilot, maybe the pilot ejected a bit premat

Interesting. The article doesn't say why the pilot ejected. If the jet were able to continue flying for hours in autopilot, maybe the pilot ejected a bit prematurely, no? Though it it continued flying I would expect it to be on ADS-B.

FinnKuhn 3y ago
When you have to eject anyway, you would probably want to do it in an area where you can get help relatively quickly, due to it being quite a bit dangerous, and not in an area with no infrastructure or over the ocean.
RetroTechie 3y ago
I'd think there's clear procedures for pilot of such a craft? If x occurs & can't be fixed by doing y or z, then eject. > Though it it continued flying I would expect it to be on ADS-B. This is a military aircraft. Depending on its mission, transponders may or may not be enabled. What did surprise me: if a 2-plane mission, why didn't the other jet follow the now-empty one? As a opposed to landing right after. Low on fuel? At least it could have recorded speed & heading.
- sschueller 3y ago
  With all the software issues how do we know the plane didn't just randomly eject the pilot due to some buffer overflow...
  - fransje26 3y ago
    Add the transponder not working, and you come to the conclusion that the jet was operating exactly as it was supposed to, by design...
  - belter 3y ago
    Or the AI they were trying on decided so...
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Hopefully that isn't a networked system. It should be physical action only.
    - sschueller 3y ago
      Eject-by-wire, I can envision some proponents for automated ejection in case the pilot is not responding or a machine is able to determine ejection is needed before a pilot realizes and it would be too late.
  - SkyMarshal 3y ago
    It's using a tiny subset of C++ and C, designed to prevent errors like that, but I wonder how well that works given the F-35 has several years of empirical data now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27602606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27602606
- bmitc 3y ago
  It would seem to me that a missing F-35 is a pretty big security threat.
  - hulitu 3y ago
    > It would seem to me that a missing F-35 is a pretty big security threat. If you believe what is written on HN: actually no, not at all.
- z303 3y ago
  > I'd think there's clear procedures for pilot of such a craft? If x occurs & can't be fixed by doing y or z, then eject. Indeed they do (or at least did) https://youtu.be/Aa1Ba_NEobs https://youtu.be/Aa1Ba_NEobs
hulitu 3y ago
> maybe the pilot ejected a bit prematurely, no? He just wanted to be sure. With all those issues F35 had i wouldn't think twice when to eject. /s

FinnKuhn 3y ago

When you have to eject anyway, you would probably want to do it in an area where you can get help relatively quickly, due to it being quite a bit dangerous, and not in an area with no infrastructure or over the ocean.

RetroTechie 3y ago

I'd think there's clear procedures for pilot of such a craft? If x occurs & can't be fixed by doing y or z, then eject. > Though it it continued flying I would expect it to be on ADS-B. This is a military aircraft. Depending on its mission, transponders may or may not be enabled. What did surprise me: if a 2-plane mission, why didn't the other jet follow the now-empty one? As a opposed to landing right after. Low on fuel? At least it could have recorded speed & heading.

sschueller 3y ago
With all the software issues how do we know the plane didn't just randomly eject the pilot due to some buffer overflow...
- fransje26 3y ago
  Add the transponder not working, and you come to the conclusion that the jet was operating exactly as it was supposed to, by design...
- belter 3y ago
  Or the AI they were trying on decided so...
- flangola7 3y ago
  Hopefully that isn't a networked system. It should be physical action only.
  - sschueller 3y ago
    Eject-by-wire, I can envision some proponents for automated ejection in case the pilot is not responding or a machine is able to determine ejection is needed before a pilot realizes and it would be too late.
- SkyMarshal 3y ago
  It's using a tiny subset of C++ and C, designed to prevent errors like that, but I wonder how well that works given the F-35 has several years of empirical data now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27602606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27602606
bmitc 3y ago
It would seem to me that a missing F-35 is a pretty big security threat.
- hulitu 3y ago
  > It would seem to me that a missing F-35 is a pretty big security threat. If you believe what is written on HN: actually no, not at all.
z303 3y ago
> I'd think there's clear procedures for pilot of such a craft? If x occurs & can't be fixed by doing y or z, then eject. Indeed they do (or at least did) https://youtu.be/Aa1Ba_NEobs https://youtu.be/Aa1Ba_NEobs

hulitu 3y ago

> maybe the pilot ejected a bit prematurely, no? He just wanted to be sure. With all those issues F35 had i wouldn't think twice when to eject. /s