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Is there a way to get a /24 block that I own and has been unused since the mid 90's routed without signing a new contract and paying the new ARIN fees?

cyberax 3y ago
You can not "own" a /24 block. And if your membership lapses, then your blocks are returned to the general pool. It's possible that your block is a part of a legacy allocation, they are governed differently.
- greyface- 3y ago
  > block that I own and has been unused since the mid 90's This timeline suggests that it's still a legacy allocation. The new governance structure does not apply unless you sign an RSA or LRSA agreement with ARIN.
- _JamesA_ 3y ago
  That's exactly why I don't want to sign a new agreement. I have never paid fees for my /24 block that I have held for 30 years.
kxrm 3y ago
You'd be under the LSRA fee schedule. https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/#legacy-registration-services-agreement-lrsa https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/#legacy-reg... So you won't be subject to the new fee structure. If you want to route then you will need an ASN and an ISP willing to announce them. So long as you are up on your LSRA dues I don't see how you won't be able to utilize them.
- greyface- 3y ago
  You don't need to sign an LRSA to use the prefix; there are some legacy holdouts still using their original prefixes without any agreement or fees with ARIN. Signing an LRSA will give you access to ARIN IRR/RPKI/rDNS/etc services, which can be quite useful, though.
  - _JamesA_ 3y ago
    I'm a holdout and have no desire to sign an LSRA.
    - greyface- 3y ago
      I'd recommend creating an IRR route object for your prefix and ASN on AltDB (or finding a sponsor to do so on your behalf). Once you have that in place, you should be able to announce it without issues, without any ARIN involvement. Growing adoption of RPKI filtering may make this increasingly difficult in the future, though.
      - _JamesA_ 3y ago
        Thanks for the information.

cyberax 3y ago

You can not "own" a /24 block. And if your membership lapses, then your blocks are returned to the general pool. It's possible that your block is a part of a legacy allocation, they are governed differently.

greyface- 3y ago
> block that I own and has been unused since the mid 90's This timeline suggests that it's still a legacy allocation. The new governance structure does not apply unless you sign an RSA or LRSA agreement with ARIN.
_JamesA_ 3y ago
That's exactly why I don't want to sign a new agreement. I have never paid fees for my /24 block that I have held for 30 years.

kxrm 3y ago

You'd be under the LSRA fee schedule. https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/#legacy-registration-services-agreement-lrsa https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/#legacy-reg... So you won't be subject to the new fee structure. If you want to route then you will need an ASN and an ISP willing to announce them. So long as you are up on your LSRA dues I don't see how you won't be able to utilize them.

greyface- 3y ago
You don't need to sign an LRSA to use the prefix; there are some legacy holdouts still using their original prefixes without any agreement or fees with ARIN. Signing an LRSA will give you access to ARIN IRR/RPKI/rDNS/etc services, which can be quite useful, though.
- _JamesA_ 3y ago
  I'm a holdout and have no desire to sign an LSRA.
  - greyface- 3y ago
    I'd recommend creating an IRR route object for your prefix and ASN on AltDB (or finding a sponsor to do so on your behalf). Once you have that in place, you should be able to announce it without issues, without any ARIN involvement. Growing adoption of RPKI filtering may make this increasingly difficult in the future, though.
    - _JamesA_ 3y ago
      Thanks for the information.