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I'm curious if one were to be certain nation state and was happy being a completely isolated intranet, that they would just exit such arin or related associatio

I'm curious if one were to be certain nation state and was happy being a completely isolated intranet, that they would just exit such arin or related associations and just create their own governing body of IP allocations? In such a case such an internet would be a completely separate internet right? I wonder if sanctions may ever apply to the internet itself and we may see a break up of the internet into regional internet's. And if we want to ensure global connectivity these associations would need to be completely independent and voluntary standard and such fees would be paid to an international standards body not beholden to any particular nation's whims? What if nations started adding intercontinental NAT gateways acting as the entry and exit points between their national boundaries and the rest of the world.

otabdeveloper4 3y ago
The big nations have already wargamed this scenario and have contingency plans in place. IMO we'll see this happen in our lifetimes.
- CMCDragonkai 3y ago
  Could starlink be a way to maintain global connectivity in the face of government control? Would they try to jam satellite connections?
  - p1mrx 3y ago
    It's harder to jam Starlink than GPS because the signals are directional, but if a government doesn't want you using it, they can just make the dishes illegal and throw you in prison for having one.
  - otabdeveloper4 3y ago
    Starlink is under USA jusrisdiction, as far as I know. I'm pretty sure there's no concept of "international waters" for communication satellites.
    - yMMe2WYE_D 3y ago
      AFAIK Most of the traffic goes: subscriber <-> (single) satellite <-> local base station. And the latter operates under the rules of given country.
Figs 3y ago
North Korea supposedly has its own intranet with IPs in the 10.0.0.0/8 private range: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyong_(network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyong_(network) I have no idea how they manage IP allocation internally there though.
shrubble 3y ago
They could just use CGNAT and could get pretty far on that alone. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

otabdeveloper4 3y ago

The big nations have already wargamed this scenario and have contingency plans in place. IMO we'll see this happen in our lifetimes.

CMCDragonkai 3y ago
Could starlink be a way to maintain global connectivity in the face of government control? Would they try to jam satellite connections?
- p1mrx 3y ago
  It's harder to jam Starlink than GPS because the signals are directional, but if a government doesn't want you using it, they can just make the dishes illegal and throw you in prison for having one.
- otabdeveloper4 3y ago
  Starlink is under USA jusrisdiction, as far as I know. I'm pretty sure there's no concept of "international waters" for communication satellites.
  - yMMe2WYE_D 3y ago
    AFAIK Most of the traffic goes: subscriber <-> (single) satellite <-> local base station. And the latter operates under the rules of given country.

Figs 3y ago

North Korea supposedly has its own intranet with IPs in the 10.0.0.0/8 private range: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyong_(network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyong_(network) I have no idea how they manage IP allocation internally there though.

shrubble 3y ago

They could just use CGNAT and could get pretty far on that alone. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT