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>you might go through 5 $300 Android devices in the time that you get out of a $1000 iPhone Maybe take care of your Android as you would an iPhone and it will

>you might go through 5 $300 Android devices in the time that you get out of a $1000 iPhone Maybe take care of your Android as you would an iPhone and it will also last as much as an iPhone, but at 1/3 the cost. Most people (worldwide) are not spending 1k on a phone, even 300 is a lot.

scarface_74 3y ago
Will you get security updates for a decade for Android phones like the iPhone 5s has had?
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  ... and will your Android actually charge when you plug it into a charger? I've had roughly five Android devices (tablets and phones) that had the curious problem that I'd plug them into a charger and it was always 50-50% if they would actually charge. This would happen when the devices were new and were starting from zero (often it would take several times to charge the device for the first time) and still happens when the devices are in regular use. All the time I leave one plugged into the charger over night and... nothing. Plug it into the same charger again and maybe it charges. I've noticed the same problem w/ Sony devices both cameras and the PS Vita if they are used with non-Sony chargers.
- synecdoche 3y ago
  I used the Wileyfox Swift for seven years until LineageOS stopped updates for it. I expect similar longevity from contemporary contenders.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Probably not, most people don't care.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    Most android vulnerabilities get patched via Google Play Services.
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      Not if they are kernel related, and only since APEX became a thing on Android in Android 10. However, it doesn't change the main point, most phone users care about updates on their phone as much as they care about updating any other device with a CPU in their home.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        I meant that most vulnerabilities in the wild that pose a threat to users and end up actually being exploited by malware, are the ones usually covered by updating Google Play services. Yes, kernel vulns will always be uncovered, but how often does the average user encounter malware that exploits that attack vector? The biggest attack vectors on Android are Google Play services and your browser. Keep those up to that and you're good even with older phones.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  Yes, Google Play services, where most of the attack vectors lie, will get updated. Most people don't keep a phone that long but change it after 4-5 years or so. How many 5s still exist in the wild?

scarface_74 3y ago

Will you get security updates for a decade for Android phones like the iPhone 5s has had?

PaulHoule 3y ago
... and will your Android actually charge when you plug it into a charger? I've had roughly five Android devices (tablets and phones) that had the curious problem that I'd plug them into a charger and it was always 50-50% if they would actually charge. This would happen when the devices were new and were starting from zero (often it would take several times to charge the device for the first time) and still happens when the devices are in regular use. All the time I leave one plugged into the charger over night and... nothing. Plug it into the same charger again and maybe it charges. I've noticed the same problem w/ Sony devices both cameras and the PS Vita if they are used with non-Sony chargers.
synecdoche 3y ago
I used the Wileyfox Swift for seven years until LineageOS stopped updates for it. I expect similar longevity from contemporary contenders.
pjmlp 3y ago
Probably not, most people don't care.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  Most android vulnerabilities get patched via Google Play Services.
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    Not if they are kernel related, and only since APEX became a thing on Android in Android 10. However, it doesn't change the main point, most phone users care about updates on their phone as much as they care about updating any other device with a CPU in their home.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      I meant that most vulnerabilities in the wild that pose a threat to users and end up actually being exploited by malware, are the ones usually covered by updating Google Play services. Yes, kernel vulns will always be uncovered, but how often does the average user encounter malware that exploits that attack vector? The biggest attack vectors on Android are Google Play services and your browser. Keep those up to that and you're good even with older phones.
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Yes, Google Play services, where most of the attack vectors lie, will get updated. Most people don't keep a phone that long but change it after 4-5 years or so. How many 5s still exist in the wild?