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I think this game uses almost entirely its own engine and Unity is just used as a HAL and porting harness, so this is sort of a best case scenario for ease of p

I think this game uses almost entirely its own engine and Unity is just used as a HAL and porting harness, so this is sort of a best case scenario for ease of porting. There's a surprisingly large number of games like this, though they're not representative of most Unity titles of course.

steeleduncan 3y ago
Yes, in some interview he mentioned that Qud at the time was running as if it were a console app inside Unity. I don't know if that is still true after their UI overhaul, but if so it always seemed odd not to port it to MonoGame instead and save paying the fees.
- VectorLock 3y ago
  COQ applies a while bunch of stylistic appliques to the "console" look that may not be possible or at least easy in other game engines.
  - rootlocus 3y ago
    That's commonly implemented with shaders. Support for shaders is guaranteed in virtually any game engine.
    - philipov 3y ago
      If Unity has some fancy prebuilt shader library he's leveraging to generate the effects, reimplementing that from scratch might be a lot of work.
      - jasonjmcghee 3y ago
        Scanlines and vignette are simple to implement and the main stylistic shaders they use. They also use a grayscale one if you trigger a specific situation. There might be others, but again, simple to write. They also use the particles system for candelabras. Could be reproduced in many engines.
picadores 3y ago
Its the result of almost every component of unity out of the box, being useless longterm. Its a similar thing with android. The operating system is just whats used to load librarys to replace all the things - camera detection, crypto etc. And one day you realize, that the operating system is just that thin metal layer and the bootloader.
- mnau 3y ago
  Could you please be more specific with examples and reasoning? I don't develop in Unity nor Android, so I am rather curious why is every component useless long term.

steeleduncan 3y ago

Yes, in some interview he mentioned that Qud at the time was running as if it were a console app inside Unity. I don't know if that is still true after their UI overhaul, but if so it always seemed odd not to port it to MonoGame instead and save paying the fees.

VectorLock 3y ago
COQ applies a while bunch of stylistic appliques to the "console" look that may not be possible or at least easy in other game engines.
- rootlocus 3y ago
  That's commonly implemented with shaders. Support for shaders is guaranteed in virtually any game engine.
  - philipov 3y ago
    If Unity has some fancy prebuilt shader library he's leveraging to generate the effects, reimplementing that from scratch might be a lot of work.
    - jasonjmcghee 3y ago
      Scanlines and vignette are simple to implement and the main stylistic shaders they use. They also use a grayscale one if you trigger a specific situation. There might be others, but again, simple to write. They also use the particles system for candelabras. Could be reproduced in many engines.

picadores 3y ago

Its the result of almost every component of unity out of the box, being useless longterm. Its a similar thing with android. The operating system is just whats used to load librarys to replace all the things - camera detection, crypto etc. And one day you realize, that the operating system is just that thin metal layer and the bootloader.

mnau 3y ago
Could you please be more specific with examples and reasoning? I don't develop in Unity nor Android, so I am rather curious why is every component useless long term.