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> You're confusing when Google started designing its own mobile SOC with when Android devices (including Google's) first started using neural network accelerato

> You're confusing when Google started designing its own mobile SOC with when Android devices (including Google's) first started using neural network accelerators, which happened months earlier on Android than on iPhones. Apple (famously) doesn't announce until new functionality/devices are actually available. When they announce real people in the real world get it within a week if not less. A press release from Qualcomm that came a few months before Apple actually got it in people's hands only further demonstrates that Apple was working on this long before Qualcomm included it in the chipsets that lag on the market from Android device manufacturers. > As for GP's claim, Android has indeed had what the iPhone is now getting for two years You meant to say that Pixel had a variant at that time with Gboard. I'm not going to bother to do the research on Gboard on iOS but I suspect it was also available on iOS with Gboard at the same time or soon thereafter. If not that's on the Gboard team at Google for not supporting neural on iOS and Apple hardware that came far, far sooner. On a somewhat-negative Apple take they are infamous for being, ummm, "inspired by" successful apps and add-ons in terms of what makes it to iOS. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Gboard vs built-in iOS keyboard is another one of these cases.

lern_too_spel 3y ago
> A press release from Qualcomm that came a few months before Apple actually got it in people's hands This press release was for a new Tensorflow release for devices that had been shipping for many months before that. It was in people's hands long before Apple even announced anything similar. > If not that's on the Gboard team at Google for not supporting neural on iOS and Apple hardware that came far, far sooner. Once again, Apple's hardware came later than Qualcomm's hardware. Pixel phones come with a lot of features that could be implemented on iOS, but why should Google go through the work of porting it only to promote a competitor's inferior platform? For example, Google Maps with navigation shipped years earlier on Android. Grammar check with a transformer model is now on all Android devices in Gboard (for more than a year and a half) and still no iOS devices.
- kkielhofner 3y ago
  All this thread has taught me is that Google/Apple religious zealotry is a very real thing. What's interesting about this "debate" is my original links very, very, very clearly show the reality: Google being excited about launching the Pixel 6 (in 2021) with Tensor silicon - a first for them. All anyone on this thread has done since is refuse to acknowledge how obvious and clear that is while deflecting and throwing things at the wall.
  - lern_too_spel 3y ago
    What was a first for Google was having its own silicon at all. The article was about how Google designed models specifically for it with neural architecture search, something Apple still doesn't do. What's clear to me is you're salty over Apple continuously being behind to the point that you misread articles in order to support your fanaticism and refuse to acknowledge it even after you've been shown the evidence.

lern_too_spel 3y ago

> A press release from Qualcomm that came a few months before Apple actually got it in people's hands This press release was for a new Tensorflow release for devices that had been shipping for many months before that. It was in people's hands long before Apple even announced anything similar. > If not that's on the Gboard team at Google for not supporting neural on iOS and Apple hardware that came far, far sooner. Once again, Apple's hardware came later than Qualcomm's hardware. Pixel phones come with a lot of features that could be implemented on iOS, but why should Google go through the work of porting it only to promote a competitor's inferior platform? For example, Google Maps with navigation shipped years earlier on Android. Grammar check with a transformer model is now on all Android devices in Gboard (for more than a year and a half) and still no iOS devices.

kkielhofner 3y ago
All this thread has taught me is that Google/Apple religious zealotry is a very real thing. What's interesting about this "debate" is my original links very, very, very clearly show the reality: Google being excited about launching the Pixel 6 (in 2021) with Tensor silicon - a first for them. All anyone on this thread has done since is refuse to acknowledge how obvious and clear that is while deflecting and throwing things at the wall.
- lern_too_spel 3y ago
  What was a first for Google was having its own silicon at all. The article was about how Google designed models specifically for it with neural architecture search, something Apple still doesn't do. What's clear to me is you're salty over Apple continuously being behind to the point that you misread articles in order to support your fanaticism and refuse to acknowledge it even after you've been shown the evidence.