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Thanks firefox for reading mode. Long articles websites with Justified paragraphs should be punished.

gwern 3y ago
Doesn't seem like people particularly care on net about using justification. I didn't find any effect on traffic on my website: https://gwern.net/ab-test-indent https://gwern.net/ab-test-indent
- jraph 3y ago
  Hi Gwern, You have a fixed message about disabled JavaScript on your site. This message takes a lot of space on the screen and completely hides your menu. Its phrasing is also quite annoying, with two exclamation points and a bold "must". I won't enable JS, I know the trade-off, it's fine to display some discrete message on top of the website, but you should respect my choice of having it disabled / try to understand it. Please. Don't nag me too hard. That would have way more effect on me than justified vs left-aligned text. I'll just use reader mode that removes even more features. As I can read in this very article, I can't trust you not to run random and untrustworthy scripts from third parties like Google Analytics on my machines.
  - sbierwagen 3y ago
    I'm interested to hear how much of the modern internet you can use with a browser with no JS. No webapps, obviously. What do you use your browser for? HN, text mode on a couple news sites, nothing else?
    - jraph 3y ago
      I enable JS when I see fit: - for web apps - for documents interactive documents that truly warrant it I leave JS disabled for documents where JS should not be necessary. I often leave if the document is not readable without JS. > how much of the modern internet you can use with a browser with no JS Both surprisingly big and sadly small.
      - sbierwagen 3y ago
        I can perhaps understand someone who disables JS entirely on some ultraparanoid security argument. But disabling JS "except for pages that deserve it" is nuts. It's like being vegan "except for Mcdonalds".
kristianp 3y ago
Only on mobile does it look unusual. Narrow columns make the effect unpalatable.
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interloxia 3y ago
Reading mode is great. Some sites can be squished for easy reading with a bookmarklet. Doesn't always work. I find it handy for reading HN threads with longer comments. javascript:(function() { document.body.style.maxWidth='750px'; document.body.style.margin='0 auto';} )(); Expunge the justification whilst you're there. javascript:(function(){var elements=Array.from(document.body.getElementsByTagName('*'));elements.forEach(function(element){element.style.textAlign='left';});})();

Doesn't seem like people particularly care on net about using justification. I didn't find any effect on traffic on my website: https://gwern.net/ab-test-indent https://gwern.net/ab-test-indent

jraph 3y ago
Hi Gwern, You have a fixed message about disabled JavaScript on your site. This message takes a lot of space on the screen and completely hides your menu. Its phrasing is also quite annoying, with two exclamation points and a bold "must". I won't enable JS, I know the trade-off, it's fine to display some discrete message on top of the website, but you should respect my choice of having it disabled / try to understand it. Please. Don't nag me too hard. That would have way more effect on me than justified vs left-aligned text. I'll just use reader mode that removes even more features. As I can read in this very article, I can't trust you not to run random and untrustworthy scripts from third parties like Google Analytics on my machines.
- sbierwagen 3y ago
  I'm interested to hear how much of the modern internet you can use with a browser with no JS. No webapps, obviously. What do you use your browser for? HN, text mode on a couple news sites, nothing else?
  - jraph 3y ago
    I enable JS when I see fit: - for web apps - for documents interactive documents that truly warrant it I leave JS disabled for documents where JS should not be necessary. I often leave if the document is not readable without JS. > how much of the modern internet you can use with a browser with no JS Both surprisingly big and sadly small.
    - sbierwagen 3y ago
      I can perhaps understand someone who disables JS entirely on some ultraparanoid security argument. But disabling JS "except for pages that deserve it" is nuts. It's like being vegan "except for Mcdonalds".

kristianp 3y ago

Only on mobile does it look unusual. Narrow columns make the effect unpalatable.

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interloxia 3y ago

Reading mode is great. Some sites can be squished for easy reading with a bookmarklet. Doesn't always work. I find it handy for reading HN threads with longer comments. javascript:(function() { document.body.style.maxWidth='750px'; document.body.style.margin='0 auto';} )(); Expunge the justification whilst you're there. javascript:(function(){var elements=Array.from(document.body.getElementsByTagName('*'));elements.forEach(function(element){element.style.textAlign='left';});})();