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java was never really a bad language. the people were. if not massive over-engineering. too many abstract concepts that make it hard to grasp a codebase. code

• _gabe_ 3y ago
  100% agree. You can create a HammerFactoryFactory to churn out HammerFactories in any language. But the ecosystem in Java (and C# is similar imo) promotes and encourages this type of problem solving. The one thing Java really does need is free standing (or namespaced) functions though. Sometimes I don’t want a class, what’s wrong with a function in a module or namespace in that case?
  • MagicMoonlight 3y ago
    A class is a module/namespace. You can make a class just to have functions in it.
    • _gabe_ 3y ago
      It’s not though. In lots of languages a namespace can span multiple files, whereas a class must be declared in a single file[0][1]. Modules can usually contain a collection of functions and classes. And namespaces can also contain multiple classes/structure/functions and sometimes modules depending on the language[2]. [0]: https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/namespaces-and-modules.html https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/namespaces-and-... [1]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/cpp/namespaces-cpp?view=msvc-170 https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/cpp/namespaces-cpp?vie... [2]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/fsharp/language-reference/namespaces https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/fsharp/language-ref...