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My daughter had her first sleepover and it was with a family that originated in India. They had spaghetti for breakfast. The idea that only certain foods are ac
by CalRobert 3y ago
My daughter had her first sleepover and it was with a family that originated in India. They had spaghetti for breakfast. The idea that only certain foods are acceptable for breakfast is silly, and considering the bizarre history of cereal it's nice to see cereal in decline.
Edit: Regarding questioning tradition and rules- I remember reading a book called "Indians of the Oaks" and feeling pretty validated that the traditional diet of the aboriginal people of the San Diego region only had 2 meals a day, and they managed just fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Indians-oaks-Mellicent-Humason-Lee/dp/0937808504 https://www.amazon.com/Indians-oaks-Mellicent-Humason-Lee/dp...
- jiggawatts 3y agoWhen I was growing up, breakfast was very often just re-heated leftovers from a previous dinner. A full plate of meat & veg with some sort of gravy or sauce was the norm, not the exception.
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- rtpg 3y agoAs a person who has to prep breakfast, spaghetti is probably the easiest non-breakfast-typical meal to prep and that’s like 5 times more work to prep than toast + eggs + yogurt + bananas. Though I did experience “breakfast is for dinners leftovers” in one family and that seems to work well when planned for
- leipert 3y agoSpaghettis being more work than all of that? Just takes one pot and a few minutes, some pesto and done. Cleaning up after making eggs is more work than the entire spaghetti dish.
- xur17 3y agoI mix eggs in a mug, and lightly rinse it out before shoving it straight in the dishwasher. The pan takes 20 seconds to clean in the sink.
- rtpg 3y agoI mean the spaghetti takes 9 minutes to cook, right? Meanwhile a sunny side up egg is maybe 3 minutes? I don’t have canned sauce (a me thing), I make it just by doing “olive oil in pan with garlic, then throw in some cut up tomatoes”. I really like this but it’s a thing. Pasta pot is of course bigger than a pan too. But I’m more talking about the time commitment since mornings are usually “I want to eat ASAP” And egg cleanup is one pan? Scrambled there’s a bowl but this is why God invented washing machines Ultimately everyone has their own rhythm though
- rewmie 3y ago> The idea that only certain foods are acceptable for breakfast is silly, and considering the bizarre history of cereal it's nice to see cereal in decline. I should add that this take is particularly absurd when talking about breakfast cereal, which is a relatively modern product and it's adoption was mainly due to marketing than actual health benefits, let alone traditional diets.
- thelittleone 3y agoWhat health benefits? Sugar is incredibly addictive (I struggled with it for decades). Cereal companies know to use compelling marketing, add some fiber and niacin to claim it's "healthy" and enough people will get addicted. Interestingly Mexico is leading in many ways to address it by prohibiting cartoons on sugary cereals (and more health warnings on labeling). Kelloggs has been fighting it in court. https://www.bakeryandsnacks.com/Article/2022/01/18/Mexico-weighs-down-on-rising-obesity-crisis-with-seizure-of-Kellogg-s-cartoon-festooned-cereals https://www.bakeryandsnacks.com/Article/2022/01/18/Mexico-we...
- tropicalbeach 3y agoYou know there is more cereal than cinnamon toast crunch right
- CalRobert 3y agoYet a lot of cereal is sweetened despite appearances and having a bunch of carbs (corn flakes, wheaties, etc.) has similar consequences.
- throwaway92700 3y agoAre you suggesting "healthy cereal" exists? Even all bran cereal contains 6g sugar per 100g.
- tpush 3y ago6g per 100g is totally fine.
- nly 3y agoMost people want something really quick, thoughtless and comforting so they feel good about starting the day and establish a routine.
- _ZeD_ 3y agoas an italian... ugh!!!
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- globular-toast 3y agoHating people is lame.
- toyg 3y agoThat must be why Italian cuisine is so dramatically unpopular. Oh wait...
- KptMarchewa 3y agoCuisine is popular, stiff adherence to it isn't. People took pizza, pasta, and other dishes and made it their own.
- toyg 3y agoAnd largely produced low-rent crap food like "spag bol", which means when they taste the real thing, they rave.
- brettermeier 3y agoAre you also against pineapple on pizza? I can't understand any Italian who doesn't like it because it's not "traditional".
- bowsamic 3y ago"Spag bol" is literally just a mince and tomato sauce with an onion and garlic base. You're really splitting hairs if you have issues with that. Also "low-rent"? Now apparently you have taken to mocking the poor
- ekianjo 3y agoAlternatively not everyone needs breakfast either. You body can survive no problem on two or even one meal a day
- CalRobert 3y agoCertainly, I find I don't really need breakfast most days. I feel my best when I wake up, have a coffee (there's some oat milk in there so a few calories), get a swim in, and then have an early-ish lunch. If I eat breakfast I never feel right in the pool.
- binarymax 3y agoI have a very similar routine! Though I prefer to swim on an empty stomach and have a coffee after as a reward :)
- bregma 3y agoWhen you wake up your liver start converting stored glycogen and pumping out glucose so your fasting blood sugar is high enough to function. Your body is actually adapted for morning fasting. Diabetics have to be aware of this and time their meds appropriately.
- sfjailbird 3y agoPerhaps it was sevaya, which looks a bit like it? Just saying because as far as my experience Indians don't eat spaghetti, let alone for breakfast :)
- makingstuffs 3y agoI’d have presumed it to be Kheer Vermicelli. It’s a very well known and loved sweet dish in India. My aunty often makes it as an addition to the morning meal when I go back to her village and stay with her.
- OJFord 3y agoThey might also just have tried it, either then for first time or before and liked it, and not felt any reason not to have it at breakfast. I have a similar story about mashed potato - they wanted to try it for whatever reason and so they did. Just a bowl of mashed potato, nothing else. The verdict was that it was pretty plain! (To make it worse, I would guess it was instant just-add-water stuff.) Oh another one - in reverse, and about myself - I like to have bhel puri for breakfast sometimes. It's basically cereal^, but actually tastes nice. And I'll take chutneys over milk any day. ^bhel is literally sugar-free 'rice krispies' or whatever it's called, but I suppose rice isn't technically a cereal, but certainly a bowl of puffed rice with milk would be called '[breakfast] cereal'.
- ta8903 3y agoTrue, it was probably vermicelli. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermicelli#Indian_subcontinent https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermicelli#Indian_subcontine...
- CalRobert 3y agoWell my five year old loved it regardless of what it was!
- selimthegrim 3y agoIf they can put ketchup and/or Maggi on it it's good to go.
- spinal 3y agoWhat's the history of cereal?
- michelb 3y agoI'm willing to bet it has something to do with the sugar lobby.
- zoky 3y agoActually the anti-masturbation lobby, but yeah. https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/32042/corn-flakes-were-invented-part-anti-masturbation-crusade https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/32042/corn-flakes-were-i...
- forgotusername6 3y agoIt has quite a history in the temperance movement (I'm thinking of Kellogg but there may have been others).
- thelittleone 3y agoWhen my sons were 5 and 7 I liked to do what we called "reverse day" once every few months, where they have dessert first in morning with dinner. Then lunch and breakfast at night. Quite a hit and helps think outside the box.
- keiferski 3y agoIt’s about as silly as every other cultural tradition involving food, which is to say, not silly at all.
- KptMarchewa 3y agoAnd, as with other cultural food traditions, it's worth to experiment and try other people's foods and ways.
- keiferski 3y agoAbsolutely, but wanting to explore other traditions is not the same thing as deeming all traditions “silly.”
- globular-toast 3y agoIs it, though? For a start nobody wants to spend hours preparing breakfast. Second, I don't think anyone is ready for a rich, heavy meal in the morning. Third, it's ok for culture to be "just because". Culture and tradition is nice. That's why humans always develop it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it (doesn't apply to junk food for breakfast, which is broke, but porridge or muesli etc, go for it).
- CalRobert 3y agoSure, I just mean that if it feels broken for you, try something different! I never liked eating breakfast, and people get really weird about it ("It's the most important meal of the day! Your body will go in to starvation mode!" etc. etc.) with no basis in fact.
- globular-toast 3y agoI haven't eaten breakfast regularly my entire adult life. People used to be funny about it but in more recent years people seem to have come around. I work with people who sit down all day and none of us need breakfast. It's more of a habit than anything. I do occasionally partake in breakfast when it's fun, though, like on holiday.
- stevezsa8 3y agoThis is really interesting to read. I had a conversation with my wife a few years back, about how a lot of things that are deemed acceptable or situationally appropriate are cultural. And sugared-breakfast-cereal vs real food came up. My conclusion was, cereal is cheap and sugar is addictive. Better to take the time to eat a good non-processed-food breakfast.
- adrian_b 3y agoUntil many years ago, I had been obese for many years and I had been believing that nothing that I could do was able to change that, due to many previous failed attempts. Then I have made a very detailed analysis of everything that I was eating and I have begun to weigh myself every day at the same hour and in the same conditions with high resolution scales, to be able to assess the effect of the changes in my diet. After replacing the junk food that I was buying with food cooked at home from raw ingredients, after a year I have reduced my weight to two thirds of the initial weight and then I have kept it constant for the next two decades. The worst offenders among the junk food that I had to completely eliminate from my daily intake, had been fruit juices and fruit yogurts and breakfast cereals, all of which contain excessive amounts of sugars, regardless of producer. Now, instead of breakfast cereals, I eat at breakfast home-made bread (baked quickly in a microwave oven), made of pure wheat flour, without any additives.
- CalRobert 3y agoI was a very obese guy in my early twenties and had never actually looked at the caloric content of what I was eating. Realizations like "the fries at in and out can be more caloric than the burger" blew my mind. Same for the tortilla being a huge percentage of the calories in a burrito. In Scott pilgrim Vs the world his exclamation of "bread makes you fat?!?!?" Was very relatable! Glad you found a system that works for you.
- stevezsa8 3y agoNice one. Sounds like you found a good solution to healthy eating.
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- dan-robertson 3y agoWhen I was a kid I went on a sleepover and got (leftover) cake for breakfast. I never let my parents forget it.
- nxobject 3y agoThis may or may not be related to that family, but when I grew up in Thailand, and my AC didn't work so I sweat my butt off at night, the first thing I wanted for breakfast was something salty. I can see spaghetti doing a good job filling that craving!
- criddell 3y agoI love occasionally doing breakfast for dinner. Usually that means I’m having eggs, toast, bacon, fruit, and (decaf) coffee.
- avgcorrection 3y agoAgreed that what is “appropriate” for certain meals is pretty silly. A pet peeve of mine though is when people bring fragrant, dinner-smelling food to eat in the office (not the cafeteria area). It's kind of distracting. :p
- bregma 3y agoI was told never to eat fish and brewis at my desk again.
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