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Using any cloud only makes sense if a) you don't know how to setup things yourself and b) your project is so big, that salaries for ops would be higher than clo
by fancythat 3y ago
Using any cloud only makes sense if a) you don't know how to setup things yourself and b) your project is so big, that salaries for ops would be higher than cloud cost.
Also, be careful with b) since you still need people that know how to do stuff, otherwise, you will experience either data breach or long downtimes.
What most people won't admit when recommending cloud is that, yes, cloud has all sorts of utility built into, like data replication, backups, scaling, etc. but things go wrong in cloud as well and if you don't have good knowledge of how things work, you will be in for a wild ride.
IMO, it is much better to learn setup things yourself, even in non-optimized way and have some knowledge on what to do when stuff begins to break.
- qwytw 3y ago> your project is so big, that salaries for ops would be higher than cloud cost. Couldn't it be the other way? On lower scale saving significant amounts of time just to save a few hundreds or thousands might not be worth it. OTH if you're paying millions to AWS hiring an extra person or two to save 20-50% (or whatever) might be a very good deal.
- Patrickmi 3y agoWell kinda, there’re indeed some services can cost more hosting than cloud hosting especially when it comes to geo-location, auto scaling, preventing dead servers but there’re are companies that maintain data centers, etc it depends
- fancythat 3y agoLocation plays a role here. If you are in the industry where your people are paid 200k usd minimum then cloud will probably pay off, if you can pay them 1/5 of that, then it is probably another way around. Ahrefs cloud story reminds me of this in some way.
- Saphyel 3y agoThis is so wrong. Cloud is for DECLARE the setup, if you don't care or you don't know then avoid cloud. On-premise you can find always dodgy scripts with no copy, no backups, some people praying everyday if the service restart he'll quit, or something working but you don't know why and the worst one, everyone afraid of update anything
- fancythat 3y agoI don't know your experience, but mine is what I stated and I have been through two on-prem to cloud migration, one done with outside help and one without, one at Fortune 500 company with fairly, not Google scale, but large setup. General theme was that if can't get your things straight on-prem, you surely won't be able to manage cloud as it adds additional level of complexity on top of your usual setup.
- hooverd 3y agoThe cloud is that but with TerraForm, or god forbid, CloudFormation.
- alsobrsp 3y agoI would change your b to, your project needs a lot of scalability. You will pay big salaries to make sure it is run correctly.