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Not mushrooms but Quorn has been making meat substitute products (some quite tasty) out of vat-grown mycelium since ‘85: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn h

Not mushrooms but Quorn has been making meat substitute products (some quite tasty) out of vat-grown mycelium since ‘85: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn

pcthrowaway 3y ago
Quorn has for the most part been making meat substitutes out of vat-grown mycelium and eggs I love mushrooms, and am mostly vegan, but the skeptic in me suspects it's not as economically viable (with their current processes) to make meat-like products out of just their "mycoprotein" or they'd be doing more of it. I realize they have released a few vegan products, but I've never seen them in stores and can't see why they wouldn't be as widely available as their other products if there weren't some texture/flavor issues without the eggs.
- andrewinardeer 3y ago
  Mostly vegan? So you're not vegan.
  - sshine 3y ago
    Mostly plant-based, move along. Vegan is the church. My local animal rights group changed their marketing 15 years ago from mainly using the term “vegan” to “plant-based” which is free from the cult-like elements of veganism, such as disapproval of anything but “100%”. The term “vegan” is back now that it has become more mainstream.
  - pcthrowaway 3y ago
    Hence, "mostly vegan". I was vegan for 6-7 years, now I'm begrudgingly consuming oysters and clams. Both have fewer neurons than a mosquito and no brain or central nervous system. I'm not certain they can't feel pain, but I was having a hard time sustaining my health within my budget on a fully plant-based diet, so until I can get back to a place where I feel like I'm getting complete nutrition on plant-based foods and supplements, I've been forcing myself to choke down some bivalves on occasion.
    - hombre_fatal 3y ago
      Some vegans including myself consider bivalves to be vegan since bivalves aren’t sentient. Veganism as a taxonomical distinction between animals and plants/fungi doesn’t make sense because it would entail eating sentient plants which doesn’t track the underlying ethics.
      - hollerith 3y ago
        Can you give an example of a sentient plant?
        hombre_fatal 3y ago
        There are none that we know of. But if we discovered one tomorrow or if Santa’s elves fell under the plant taxonomy, I don’t think most vegans would be onboard with farming them for food. Sentience is the variable that matters. Animals have just become a rough proxy for that variable due to the lopsided distribution of sentience.
      - Klonoar 3y ago
        To this day I wish the term “seagan” had caught on.
- camtarn 3y ago
  The fully vegan products are actually pretty common here in the UK. They taste fine to me. I wonder if it's something to do with certain products needing a particular texture which is hard to get without eggs.

Not mushrooms but Quorn has been making meat substitute products (some quite tasty) out of vat-grown mycelium since ‘85: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn

pcthrowaway 3y ago

Quorn has for the most part been making meat substitutes out of vat-grown mycelium and eggs I love mushrooms, and am mostly vegan, but the skeptic in me suspects it's not as economically viable (with their current processes) to make meat-like products out of just their "mycoprotein" or they'd be doing more of it. I realize they have released a few vegan products, but I've never seen them in stores and can't see why they wouldn't be as widely available as their other products if there weren't some texture/flavor issues without the eggs.

andrewinardeer 3y ago
Mostly vegan? So you're not vegan.
- sshine 3y ago
  Mostly plant-based, move along. Vegan is the church. My local animal rights group changed their marketing 15 years ago from mainly using the term “vegan” to “plant-based” which is free from the cult-like elements of veganism, such as disapproval of anything but “100%”. The term “vegan” is back now that it has become more mainstream.
- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  Hence, "mostly vegan". I was vegan for 6-7 years, now I'm begrudgingly consuming oysters and clams. Both have fewer neurons than a mosquito and no brain or central nervous system. I'm not certain they can't feel pain, but I was having a hard time sustaining my health within my budget on a fully plant-based diet, so until I can get back to a place where I feel like I'm getting complete nutrition on plant-based foods and supplements, I've been forcing myself to choke down some bivalves on occasion.
  - hombre_fatal 3y ago
    Some vegans including myself consider bivalves to be vegan since bivalves aren’t sentient. Veganism as a taxonomical distinction between animals and plants/fungi doesn’t make sense because it would entail eating sentient plants which doesn’t track the underlying ethics.
    - hollerith 3y ago
      Can you give an example of a sentient plant?
      - hombre_fatal 3y ago
        There are none that we know of. But if we discovered one tomorrow or if Santa’s elves fell under the plant taxonomy, I don’t think most vegans would be onboard with farming them for food. Sentience is the variable that matters. Animals have just become a rough proxy for that variable due to the lopsided distribution of sentience.
    - Klonoar 3y ago
      To this day I wish the term “seagan” had caught on.
camtarn 3y ago
The fully vegan products are actually pretty common here in the UK. They taste fine to me. I wonder if it's something to do with certain products needing a particular texture which is hard to get without eggs.