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Why not just grow mushrooms? Their cells are meaty, super high in protein, and they already exist / the “tech” has already been developed! There is an extremely
by sshine 3y ago
Why not just grow mushrooms? Their cells are meaty, super high in protein, and they already exist / the “tech” has already been developed! There is an extremely large selection, some with additional health benefits.
- malfist 3y ago2-3 percent of the population has a mushroom allergy, myself included
- smegsicle 3y agothat's too bad, they taste great with beef maybe better than worcestershire
- kaycebasques 3y agoI think I looked into the protein amounts back in my vegan days and was disappointed to discover that the amounts are fairly low. Maybe it depends on the type. Lots of other reasons for us to cultivate more mushrooms though. Mycelium Running outlines a lot of cool ideas.
- housemusicfan 3y agoBecause mushrooms are NOT "super high in protein". A comparable serving of beef has about 12x the amount of protein as mushrooms.
- xnx 3y ago12x? Isn't beef approximately 2/3 protein and mushrooms 1/2 protein?
- pjscott 3y agoMushrooms are about 90% water, but the non-water part is indeed roughly half protein.
- gffrd 3y agoSay you were going to eat 8oz of beef. How many oz of mushrooms would one have to eat to get the same amount of protein?
- mattnewton 3y ago>56oz according to google which lists beef at 7g/ounce and mushrooms at 0.9/ounce Edit: legumes are more practical, green peas give you 2g/oz and peanuts can be 7g/oz shelled according to google, (though they are different proteins than the beef). Mushrooms are good for texture and some like shitaki can give the umami taste, but they aren’t a nutritional meat substitute on their own.
- dmoy 3y agoLike 1-3kg of non-dried mushrooms?
- sshine 3y agoWhen you compare mushroom dry weight, it is more like 10-25% protein. This is without any industrial processing.
- tsimionescu 3y agoIs that relevant? You don't eat dried mushrooms, even if you start with them you have to hidrate them a lot before they are any good.
- sshine 3y agoYes, it is. We should measure the protein density at a meaningful state for consumption. While you can eat some mushrooms fresh and dry, their water density when fried is somewhere in the middle. Closer to dry when processed.
- pxmpxm 3y agoThis. Beans, lentils and friends if you're after vegetable protein.
- harvey9 3y agoThis reads like your friends are not made of meat.
- Loughla 3y agoMeat tastes good. Mushrooms taste good, but in a different way. You can want a perfect world, but it will never exist. Like it or don't, solving meat consumption and its effects on the planet is something we'll have to do. That probably involves a meaty substitute for meat.
- pjot 3y agoDoes meat actually taste good though? When has anyone ordered unseasoned chicken? Salt and spices taste good.
- dpig_ 3y agoRed meats taste good sans spices.
- parthdesai 3y agoeh, you still need salt + pepper.
- ddingus 3y agoNo, you don't. Well, maybe you do, but it can be prepared well and require none of those things.
- tsimionescu 3y agoSalt helps a lot, but pepper is not necessary. And even an unsalted steak is still good.
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- parthdesai 3y agoJust for fun and games, let's apply your logic but inverse the argument. Do salt and spices actually taste good though? When has anyone ordered only salt and spices? Need both (or salt, spices and vegetables/lentils/beans etc), and a skilled cook for delicious meal.
- xnx 3y agoThere are startups doing this: https://www.naturesfynd.com/fy-protein https://www.naturesfynd.com/fy-protein
- rcme 3y agoAnd heme iron?
- doctorhandshake 3y agoNot mushrooms but Quorn has been making meat substitute products (some quite tasty) out of vat-grown mycelium since ‘85: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn
- pcthrowaway 3y agoQuorn has for the most part been making meat substitutes out of vat-grown mycelium and eggs I love mushrooms, and am mostly vegan, but the skeptic in me suspects it's not as economically viable (with their current processes) to make meat-like products out of just their "mycoprotein" or they'd be doing more of it. I realize they have released a few vegan products, but I've never seen them in stores and can't see why they wouldn't be as widely available as their other products if there weren't some texture/flavor issues without the eggs.
- andrewinardeer 3y agoMostly vegan? So you're not vegan.
- sshine 3y agoMostly plant-based, move along. Vegan is the church. My local animal rights group changed their marketing 15 years ago from mainly using the term “vegan” to “plant-based” which is free from the cult-like elements of veganism, such as disapproval of anything but “100%”. The term “vegan” is back now that it has become more mainstream.
- pcthrowaway 3y agoHence, "mostly vegan". I was vegan for 6-7 years, now I'm begrudgingly consuming oysters and clams. Both have fewer neurons than a mosquito and no brain or central nervous system. I'm not certain they can't feel pain, but I was having a hard time sustaining my health within my budget on a fully plant-based diet, so until I can get back to a place where I feel like I'm getting complete nutrition on plant-based foods and supplements, I've been forcing myself to choke down some bivalves on occasion.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y agoLivestock eats food that tastes good: grains, grasses, corn, protein-rich insects. You can discern a well-nourished animal by the way its meat tastes. What do you feed to mushrooms?
- Klonoar 3y agoMeati is literally this.