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California sues 5 major oil co's for campaign of deception about climate change
- aaomidi 3y agoAlso California letting the Wells Fargo exec walk away without a prison sentence.
- thelastgallon 3y agoSee also: Exxon Knew about Climate Change almost 40 years ago: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-... Oregon County Sues BP, Chevron, Shell, Exxon for $51B Climate Damages:https://carboncredits.com/oregon-county-sues-oil-companies-shell-bp-exxon-chevron-for-51b-climate-damages/ https://carboncredits.com/oregon-county-sues-oil-companies-s... Regardless of these suits, expect fossil fuel companies to make hundreds of billions of dollars with promises of mitigating climate change! [1] [1] The fossil-fuel companies expect to profit from climate change. I went to a private planning meeting and took notes: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/shell-climate-change.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/shell-climate-change...
- narrator 3y agoGotta pay for those underfunded public employee pensions somehow.
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- jtode 3y agoThe problem is sitting in everyone's driveway, where everyone is gonna tell you it's gonna stay and they ain't going back to taking the friggin bus. Not superior, I live in the country, even more locked into it. But the day is coming that we can't afford the gas for em, one by one it'll become too expensive, and with each day worth less and less, until one day you'll have to pay someone with a horse and cart to pull your pile of useless toxic steel and fibreglass away, and she'll judge the hell out of you as she takes your money.
- mjamesaustin 3y agoThe auto industry is undergoing an electrification process that is now rapidly accelerating. Within the next couple decades, oil and gas won't be needed as fuel except for air and maybe sea travel.
- oaththrowaway 3y agoCalifornia's grid can't support more electric cars
- viraptor 3y agoThat's ok, the car production capacity is limited too. The grid and charging capacity will improve as more demand appears. In the past the oil supply couldn't support our current number of cars either. Turns out, when there's demand, we're pretty good at expansion infrastructure. In an emergency it could be a great project for the market too, like the highway expansion.
- decremental 3y ago[dead]
- Gibbon1 3y agoFrom CAISO Current capacity 43,777 MW Current demand 29,361 MW Difference 14,315 MW That enough to charge 2.8 million cars at 5kw.
- throwaway5959 3y agoAnd EV drivers know you spend almost none of your car's time charging. We maybe charge once a week, almost always at work.
- nielsbot 3y agoDo you have any stats on that? It's certainly not true for me. I commute an hour to work each way.
- benatkin 3y agoIf this is reasonable, maybe they should also sue Google for using a leaf icon to signify a route that uses a tiny bit less gasoline. It's a huge exaggeration of how green it is to drive like this, and there are no leaves for walking, bicycling, or taking public transit.
- throwaway5959 3y agoThat's because walking and bicycling emits CO2.
- aaomidi 3y agoAre these two in the same realm, like, at all?
- CatWChainsaw 3y agoIf they don't successfully win this case for a total sum equal or greater to the amount of money these companies raked in during their decades-long misinformation campaigns, Capitalism As It Is Practiced will declare it "worth it". Oil companies will only meaningfully pivot if the people calling the shots at the companies recalculate risk/reward.
- defrost 3y agoIf California does win then it's a meaningless exercise unless any fines are directed toward publicly owned industrial fossil fuel extraction scale capital investment in effective carbon capture and renewable infrastructure. Those that profited from creating a global problem need to put those profits directly towards meaningful remediation.
- CatWChainsaw 3y agoMhm. So this will end up being outrage theater.
- formvoltron 3y agoplease pay 400 trillion dollars.
- engineer_22 3y ago> For decades, California was one of the leading oil producers in the country, with a bustling industry that was a pillar in the state economy. The state is now the nation’s seventh-largest oil producer, according to federal data.[1] California is cannibalizing itself. https://apnews.com/article/climate-oil-gas-california-lawsuit-newsom-212d6d9873352f28094173a1974e3d90 https://apnews.com/article/climate-oil-gas-california-lawsui...
- hnisforfascists 3y ago[dead]