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If technology through streaming, AI, and other enshittifying forces are scaling up pre-existing bullshit from annoying trends into absolute omnipresence, that's

by gdulli 3y ago

If technology through streaming, AI, and other enshittifying forces are scaling up pre-existing bullshit from annoying trends into absolute omnipresence, that's worth recognizing and talking about as its own phenomenon.

Spivak 3y ago
This take doesn't resonate with me at all. The music is scene is fantastic right now and the insane amount of collaborations will be remembered in 20 years as a musical era. Literally everyone's preferred era of music is someone's "todays music is bad rabble rabble." Even classical was considered inferior and simplistic by people who preferred music from the baroque period. Like its original critics literally said that classical was too repetitive.
- WalterBright 3y ago
  > classical was too repetitive Ravel's "Bolero", anyone? I hate that composition. Even Emerson Lake Palmer couldn't fix it.
  - bradrn 3y ago
    In the periodisation GP is referring to, I believe Boléro would be Modernist, not Classical. The latter [0] refers to works by e.g. Mozart and Haydn, and followed the Baroque period of e.g. J.S. Bach. (Incidentally, I do find Classical music quite repetitive — although on the other hand I’ve long enjoyed Boléro. Curious!) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_period_(music) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_period_(music)
  - eredengrin 3y ago
    At least you can avoid bolero pretty easily. The real disaster is canon in d...
- Rastonbury 3y ago
  Yeah shorter radio edits have been around a long time. As an artist, if you want to make longer songs just release 2 versions, sure there are some just chasing dollars who do not care about that My gripe is the newer recommendations algos seem worse than those from 10 years ago, like there was nothing wrong with simple "people who liked this song also played these songs" I listen to many genres so I think my listening profile is a bit diluted/varied

by gdulli 3y ago

Spivak 3y ago

This take doesn't resonate with me at all. The music is scene is fantastic right now and the insane amount of collaborations will be remembered in 20 years as a musical era. Literally everyone's preferred era of music is someone's "todays music is bad rabble rabble." Even classical was considered inferior and simplistic by people who preferred music from the baroque period. Like its original critics literally said that classical was too repetitive.

WalterBright 3y ago
> classical was too repetitive Ravel's "Bolero", anyone? I hate that composition. Even Emerson Lake Palmer couldn't fix it.
- bradrn 3y ago
  In the periodisation GP is referring to, I believe Boléro would be Modernist, not Classical. The latter [0] refers to works by e.g. Mozart and Haydn, and followed the Baroque period of e.g. J.S. Bach. (Incidentally, I do find Classical music quite repetitive — although on the other hand I’ve long enjoyed Boléro. Curious!) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_period_(music) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_period_(music)
- eredengrin 3y ago
  At least you can avoid bolero pretty easily. The real disaster is canon in d...
Rastonbury 3y ago
Yeah shorter radio edits have been around a long time. As an artist, if you want to make longer songs just release 2 versions, sure there are some just chasing dollars who do not care about that My gripe is the newer recommendations algos seem worse than those from 10 years ago, like there was nothing wrong with simple "people who liked this song also played these songs" I listen to many genres so I think my listening profile is a bit diluted/varied