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Because the surface area of lodash is so large and I need just a small fraction of it. And when I do need it it's easy to make a simple transparent version of

Because the surface area of lodash is so large and I need just a small fraction of it. And when I do need it it's easy to make a simple transparent version of the needed until rather than invoke a mystical black box. I admit this is opinionated and I have managed to work with lodash and keep my mouth shut about it

BoiledCabbage 3y ago
Thanks for sharing - I disagree with the approach, but understand it. Or rather, I feel that can work for individual coding, or possibly very small teams - but in the end I feel it usually works out to be unintentionally anti-team behavior. It trades off "I need to learn and understand this black box of behavior for instead I have this code that I know and can easily reason about". While for the entire rest of your team it went from "there is this common pattern that most of all 20 (or however many) of us know - and instead makes it 19 of us now need to learn this non-standard behavior/implementation, but at least one person knows well." Essentially everyone else has to learn more code, so that one person doesn't. Agreed it's usually not the most complex of code, but it's usually buggier and shifts to cost / burden to everyone else. The opposite of economies of scale and leveraging prior fixed costs of learning. But again, I don't know your situation and will readily admit my opinion above doesn't in anyway make it factually a better approach. Just my opinion on it same as yours.
- rcme 3y ago
  It works perfectly fine. You just copy and paste the code you need. If someone else needs it, they search the code base first, which is normal in large code bases. There are tons of different libraries that provide deep equality checks for instance. When I work in a code base, I need to search for existing solutions in the code base before adding someone new. It doesn’t matter if the functionality is provided by a first or third part library.
xeromal 3y ago
I'm not sure if you're aware but lodash has individual packages for each of their functions.
dheerajvs 3y ago
I searched my monorepo and could find only two lodash functions installed: lodash.startcase and lodash.unescape. It's nice to be able to install individual functions like these, which I don't prefer to write myself.
solumunus 3y ago
You can import individual lodash functions. I use lodash but there’s only 5 individual lodash functions in my dependencies.

BoiledCabbage 3y ago

Thanks for sharing - I disagree with the approach, but understand it. Or rather, I feel that can work for individual coding, or possibly very small teams - but in the end I feel it usually works out to be unintentionally anti-team behavior. It trades off "I need to learn and understand this black box of behavior for instead I have this code that I know and can easily reason about". While for the entire rest of your team it went from "there is this common pattern that most of all 20 (or however many) of us know - and instead makes it 19 of us now need to learn this non-standard behavior/implementation, but at least one person knows well." Essentially everyone else has to learn more code, so that one person doesn't. Agreed it's usually not the most complex of code, but it's usually buggier and shifts to cost / burden to everyone else. The opposite of economies of scale and leveraging prior fixed costs of learning. But again, I don't know your situation and will readily admit my opinion above doesn't in anyway make it factually a better approach. Just my opinion on it same as yours.

rcme 3y ago
It works perfectly fine. You just copy and paste the code you need. If someone else needs it, they search the code base first, which is normal in large code bases. There are tons of different libraries that provide deep equality checks for instance. When I work in a code base, I need to search for existing solutions in the code base before adding someone new. It doesn’t matter if the functionality is provided by a first or third part library.

xeromal 3y ago

I'm not sure if you're aware but lodash has individual packages for each of their functions.

dheerajvs 3y ago

I searched my monorepo and could find only two lodash functions installed: lodash.startcase and lodash.unescape. It's nice to be able to install individual functions like these, which I don't prefer to write myself.

solumunus 3y ago

You can import individual lodash functions. I use lodash but there’s only 5 individual lodash functions in my dependencies.