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> "We leverage our own proprietary data model, so you can appreciate that we won't go into a lot of detail, but we believe it gives an accurate determination of

> "We leverage our own proprietary data model, so you can appreciate that we won't go into a lot of detail, but we believe it gives an accurate determination of the number of times the Runtime is distributed for a given project." This is incredible. They've given themselves the right to demand any amount of money as determined by them alone.

throw16180339 3y ago
I never thought I'd say this, but they make Oracle license audits seem reasonable by comparison.
diego_sandoval 3y ago
"Trust me, bro"
aschearer 3y ago
"We won't go into a lot of detail" but they still expect to be paid based on the data they collect? What happens when a popular game or publisher claims they had X installs and Unity claims they had Y? Hard to imagine people will simply accept Unity's position when there's real money at stake...
solardev 3y ago
Isn't that how ad networks work too?
- alangibson 3y ago
  Yes, and it's an open secret that they're crooked as a dog's hind leg.
- galleywest200 3y ago
  Yes. In fact, Unity merged with a company that sort of specializes in mobile advertising: ironSource. [1] Here is an example of one of their mobile ad products: https://www.is.com/mobile-advertising-sdk/ https://www.is.com/mobile-advertising-sdk/ [1]: https://investors.unity.com/news/news-details/2022/Unity-Announces-Merger-Agreement-with-ironSource/default.aspx https://investors.unity.com/news/news-details/2022/Unity-Ann...
  - EricE 3y ago
    And if you look at little closer, it's beyond obvious this is what is behind all of this - if you use Unity's ad services (IronSource) then all the per install fee business magically goes away. They are trying to force people into their services - plain and simple. It was pretty obvious to me but stuff like this just reenforces it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOCTSp_U-KI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOCTSp_U-KI
  - pests 3y ago
    Considering more than half their revenue comes from advertising that is not unsuprising.

throw16180339 3y ago

I never thought I'd say this, but they make Oracle license audits seem reasonable by comparison.

diego_sandoval 3y ago

"Trust me, bro"

aschearer 3y ago

"We won't go into a lot of detail" but they still expect to be paid based on the data they collect? What happens when a popular game or publisher claims they had X installs and Unity claims they had Y? Hard to imagine people will simply accept Unity's position when there's real money at stake...

solardev 3y ago

Isn't that how ad networks work too?

alangibson 3y ago
Yes, and it's an open secret that they're crooked as a dog's hind leg.
galleywest200 3y ago
Yes. In fact, Unity merged with a company that sort of specializes in mobile advertising: ironSource. [1] Here is an example of one of their mobile ad products: https://www.is.com/mobile-advertising-sdk/ https://www.is.com/mobile-advertising-sdk/ [1]: https://investors.unity.com/news/news-details/2022/Unity-Announces-Merger-Agreement-with-ironSource/default.aspx https://investors.unity.com/news/news-details/2022/Unity-Ann...
- EricE 3y ago
  And if you look at little closer, it's beyond obvious this is what is behind all of this - if you use Unity's ad services (IronSource) then all the per install fee business magically goes away. They are trying to force people into their services - plain and simple. It was pretty obvious to me but stuff like this just reenforces it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOCTSp_U-KI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOCTSp_U-KI
- pests 3y ago
  Considering more than half their revenue comes from advertising that is not unsuprising.