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I hope this leads to a fire sale. Maybe Apple could buy Unity and make it free, period, just to encourage Mac and Vision development. (edit: and iOS! Lol I alw

I hope this leads to a fire sale. Maybe Apple could buy Unity and make it free, period, just to encourage Mac and Vision development. (edit: and iOS! Lol I always forget mobile gaming is a thing. Facepalm.)

kowbell 3y ago
To be fair - Unity did start on OS X and was very early on iOS!
jwells89 3y ago
That would be quite something. Perhaps this would also result in Unity's ad business being shuttered or at least sanitized, similar to how Shazam shed all of its third party tracking junk after Apple bought it.
gryn 3y ago
If apple buy unity the last thing I see them do is make it open source. I can see them make it apple exclusive and more integrated to the apple ecosystem though.
- jwells89 3y ago
  Open source is indeed unlikely, but there's a very good chance they'd make it free or inexpensive relative to competitors. Plenty of precedent for that in the video editing tools they've bought and turned first-party. They might not kill off cross-platform support this time, though. Today's Apple maintains true native (not just "port half of the Mac/iOS userland" native) Android and Windows apps.
- mst 3y ago
  I don't consider it -likely- but Apple do have form for "buy a thing to -use- it and who cares if other people use it as well" in FoundationDB.
  - moogly 3y ago
    They pulled the code for 3 years though?
timmytokyo 3y ago
Microsoft is honestly a better fit given Unity's C# roots and Visual Studio integration. But I find it hard to imagine Microsoft being all that interested in Unity these days. They're already attracting intense antitrust scrutiny vis-a-vis their attempted Activision-Blizzard acquisition.
- jwells89 3y ago
  Given the ubiquity of tech debt in Unity I could see Apple maintaining support for the current C# version for the time being and in the long term, replacing it with a full rewrite based around Swift with a temporary C# compatibility layer to pull the ecosystem through the migration, which wouldn't be everybody's cup of tea but could be interesting.
- solardev 3y ago
  That's a really interesting idea. I'm pretty sure the Blizivison acquisition went through in both the US and EU. Microsoft's not really a huge player in gaming; Xbox and Windows combined are still tiny compared to the other consoles and mobile platforms. And if they use a similar playbook like they did with the acquisition (promising cross platform compatibility for a decade or so), they honestly wouldn't be the worst stewards. Today's Microsoft is kinda slow and boring, but that's probably the kind of business you want managing a game engine. Reliable, stable to the point of being stale, but reliable. No sudden surprises that give you 3 months to reinvent your last five years of work.
dotnet00 3y ago
If Apple buys it, it'll quickly head down the path of exclusivity. They'll find some "security" excuse for it that'll be enough for their reality distortion field to do its thing.
- solardev 3y ago
  Is there such a thing as an Apple exclusive game? I can't imagine a developer would want to cut off like 90% of the market from being able to play their title. (I think there are a few on Apple Arcade, but I always assumed those were sponsored exclusives?)
  - brucethemoose2 3y ago
    There used to be plenty of iOS exclusives. But if you are talking OSX exclusive, yeah, that would be kinda insane.
  - fordsmith 3y ago
    The issue is not an apple exclusive game, it's that they will make the Unity developer experience apple only.
    - solardev 3y ago
      How could that work? Even the M2 Ultra isn't nearly as powerful an actual desktop GPU, much less workstation or data center cards. And devs will need to be able to test on Windows machines.
  - jwells89 3y ago
    There used to be some indie Mac (and later iOS) only game studios like Pangea Software (makers of Nanosaur, Bugdom, Otto-Matic, and Enigmo among others) but I'm not sure how many of those are still around. As far as bigger studios go, Bungie was a Mac studio until Microsoft scooped them up to turn Halo Xbox-exclusive instead.
robotnikman 3y ago
My pipe dream would be Valve buying unity, being a private company they would not have to deal with pressure from shareholders and they have a good track record with developers and customers. But they already have their own Source game engine so no point in them doing that.

kowbell 3y ago

To be fair - Unity did start on OS X and was very early on iOS!

jwells89 3y ago

That would be quite something. Perhaps this would also result in Unity's ad business being shuttered or at least sanitized, similar to how Shazam shed all of its third party tracking junk after Apple bought it.

gryn 3y ago

If apple buy unity the last thing I see them do is make it open source. I can see them make it apple exclusive and more integrated to the apple ecosystem though.

jwells89 3y ago
Open source is indeed unlikely, but there's a very good chance they'd make it free or inexpensive relative to competitors. Plenty of precedent for that in the video editing tools they've bought and turned first-party. They might not kill off cross-platform support this time, though. Today's Apple maintains true native (not just "port half of the Mac/iOS userland" native) Android and Windows apps.
mst 3y ago
I don't consider it -likely- but Apple do have form for "buy a thing to -use- it and who cares if other people use it as well" in FoundationDB.
- moogly 3y ago
  They pulled the code for 3 years though?

timmytokyo 3y ago

Microsoft is honestly a better fit given Unity's C# roots and Visual Studio integration. But I find it hard to imagine Microsoft being all that interested in Unity these days. They're already attracting intense antitrust scrutiny vis-a-vis their attempted Activision-Blizzard acquisition.

jwells89 3y ago
Given the ubiquity of tech debt in Unity I could see Apple maintaining support for the current C# version for the time being and in the long term, replacing it with a full rewrite based around Swift with a temporary C# compatibility layer to pull the ecosystem through the migration, which wouldn't be everybody's cup of tea but could be interesting.
solardev 3y ago
That's a really interesting idea. I'm pretty sure the Blizivison acquisition went through in both the US and EU. Microsoft's not really a huge player in gaming; Xbox and Windows combined are still tiny compared to the other consoles and mobile platforms. And if they use a similar playbook like they did with the acquisition (promising cross platform compatibility for a decade or so), they honestly wouldn't be the worst stewards. Today's Microsoft is kinda slow and boring, but that's probably the kind of business you want managing a game engine. Reliable, stable to the point of being stale, but reliable. No sudden surprises that give you 3 months to reinvent your last five years of work.

dotnet00 3y ago

If Apple buys it, it'll quickly head down the path of exclusivity. They'll find some "security" excuse for it that'll be enough for their reality distortion field to do its thing.

solardev 3y ago
Is there such a thing as an Apple exclusive game? I can't imagine a developer would want to cut off like 90% of the market from being able to play their title. (I think there are a few on Apple Arcade, but I always assumed those were sponsored exclusives?)
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  There used to be plenty of iOS exclusives. But if you are talking OSX exclusive, yeah, that would be kinda insane.
- fordsmith 3y ago
  The issue is not an apple exclusive game, it's that they will make the Unity developer experience apple only.
  - solardev 3y ago
    How could that work? Even the M2 Ultra isn't nearly as powerful an actual desktop GPU, much less workstation or data center cards. And devs will need to be able to test on Windows machines.
- jwells89 3y ago
  There used to be some indie Mac (and later iOS) only game studios like Pangea Software (makers of Nanosaur, Bugdom, Otto-Matic, and Enigmo among others) but I'm not sure how many of those are still around. As far as bigger studios go, Bungie was a Mac studio until Microsoft scooped them up to turn Halo Xbox-exclusive instead.

robotnikman 3y ago

My pipe dream would be Valve buying unity, being a private company they would not have to deal with pressure from shareholders and they have a good track record with developers and customers. But they already have their own Source game engine so no point in them doing that.