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If I was going to get fired it’d be for telling the truth. Saying no is allowed. If they fire you for telling the truth and there is evidence to support your po

by baz00 3y ago

If I was going to get fired it’d be for telling the truth. Saying no is allowed. If they fire you for telling the truth and there is evidence to support your position then sue the fuck out of them for unfair dismissal. My current company won’t let me near customers.

dylan604 3y ago
keeping a distance from customers/users is my preferred location as well. even designing UI is too close for my liking.
- salawat 3y ago
  I've broken my habit of retreating from customers. After all, if you don't know their pain, how are you to be an effective yardstick of Quality? If people try to keep you away from the customers/users, you beeline to the customers
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    A stint in customer support cures this attitude. It’s a special person who can survive that for a career.
    - dylan604 3y ago
      i'm not sure cures is the word. some people might have a change of attitude, others, it will only ingrain the situation even further.
    - richardjam73 3y ago
      I think your'e overemphasising how bad it is. I worked for quite some time as a computer tech fixing problems on-site and seeing exactly what issues customers face. I didn't come across too many "bad" clients. Now maybe this is because most customers could not call me directly, they had to log a call first but most people realise that your work is just as important as theirs is.
    - baz00 3y ago
      Yes. This is why I don't do customers any more.
orev 3y ago
Since your comment references sueing, I’m going to assume you’re in the US, where almost all employment is “at will”. They can dismiss you for any reason as long at it’s not a protected one. Telling the truth and being a jerk is not a protected status, so you won’t be getting anywhere with that lawsuit.
- rurban 3y ago
  He is working in the UK, so he has rights
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  Don’t comment on things you know nothing about, being fired for refusing to commit fraud is definitely grounds for unlawful termination. I truly don’t understand how people work and still have no idea what at will actually means.
- II2II 3y ago
  How does that work when the employer puts you in a position where you must provide an answer, the expected answer would involve commiting a crime, and the only alternative is to tell the truth? Whether we like it or not, employers have a lot of leverage over employees. Arguably, it is one of the reasons why employees are paid disproportionately less. Such protections should exist. I'll believe youbif you claim they don't. I'm not an American, nor do I work for an American firm. On the other hand, I do find it ironic that a country would tout law and order while not providing the means for individuals to uphold that ideal.
  - prewett 3y ago
    You tell the truth. It is wrongful dismissal to fire someone for telling the truth (that is the retaliation prohibition clause). The US government has a brief summary at https://www.usa.gov/wrongful-termination https://www.usa.gov/wrongful-termination
  - eschneider 3y ago
    Don’t do crimes. That might lead to problems, but they’re easier problems to deal with.

by baz00 3y ago

dylan604 3y ago

keeping a distance from customers/users is my preferred location as well. even designing UI is too close for my liking.

salawat 3y ago
I've broken my habit of retreating from customers. After all, if you don't know their pain, how are you to be an effective yardstick of Quality? If people try to keep you away from the customers/users, you beeline to the customers
- lostlogin 3y ago
  A stint in customer support cures this attitude. It’s a special person who can survive that for a career.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    i'm not sure cures is the word. some people might have a change of attitude, others, it will only ingrain the situation even further.
  - richardjam73 3y ago
    I think your'e overemphasising how bad it is. I worked for quite some time as a computer tech fixing problems on-site and seeing exactly what issues customers face. I didn't come across too many "bad" clients. Now maybe this is because most customers could not call me directly, they had to log a call first but most people realise that your work is just as important as theirs is.
  - baz00 3y ago
    Yes. This is why I don't do customers any more.

orev 3y ago

Since your comment references sueing, I’m going to assume you’re in the US, where almost all employment is “at will”. They can dismiss you for any reason as long at it’s not a protected one. Telling the truth and being a jerk is not a protected status, so you won’t be getting anywhere with that lawsuit.

rurban 3y ago
He is working in the UK, so he has rights
whimsicalism 3y ago
Don’t comment on things you know nothing about, being fired for refusing to commit fraud is definitely grounds for unlawful termination. I truly don’t understand how people work and still have no idea what at will actually means.
II2II 3y ago
How does that work when the employer puts you in a position where you must provide an answer, the expected answer would involve commiting a crime, and the only alternative is to tell the truth? Whether we like it or not, employers have a lot of leverage over employees. Arguably, it is one of the reasons why employees are paid disproportionately less. Such protections should exist. I'll believe youbif you claim they don't. I'm not an American, nor do I work for an American firm. On the other hand, I do find it ironic that a country would tout law and order while not providing the means for individuals to uphold that ideal.
- prewett 3y ago
  You tell the truth. It is wrongful dismissal to fire someone for telling the truth (that is the retaliation prohibition clause). The US government has a brief summary at https://www.usa.gov/wrongful-termination https://www.usa.gov/wrongful-termination
- eschneider 3y ago
  Don’t do crimes. That might lead to problems, but they’re easier problems to deal with.