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Parallax effect? Echos? Misinterpreted sensor readings... endless list of possibilities and combinations. Have a lot of sensors, see a lot of odd things - nothi
by RandomLensman 3y ago
Parallax effect? Echos? Misinterpreted sensor readings... endless list of possibilities and combinations. Have a lot of sensors, see a lot of odd things - nothing new.
- monocasa 3y agoIt was seen visually, with IR, and via RADAR, each from multiple observers.
- RandomLensman 3y agoSo what? Something caused that observation, but it wasn't something extraterrestrial. You also have to allow for one of the sensors to be wrong/noisy etc. and then being interpreted through the lens of observation via another.
- qaq 3y agoNone claiming it is extraterrestrial but there is no evidence to the contrary either. You have too many diverse independent sensors that lined up.
- RandomLensman 3y agoDoesn't work that way: there is always an infinite list of possibilities without evidence to the contrary if you allow for a wide enough "solution space" (even if you have already an explanation).
- monocasa 3y agoWhat you're saying is unfalsifiable.
- RandomLensman 3y agoIsn't it highly falsible? Show that sometimes there is only a finite set of possibilities no matter the solution space.
- monocasa 3y agoNo, that's not really how that works. You appear to be claiming that there's an infinite amount of explanations and we can't really know, while also claiming that more data points don't create greater certainty of correlation. That's contrary to the basis of how science works.
- RandomLensman 3y agoI did not claim the part about more data or that we cannot really know, but rather that if you have to consider any and all explanation in an analysis you have a problem - it's a line of thinking that doesn't help and leaves the realm of science. For example, is having a simple mechanical explanation for something really evidence against some Devine intervention that is just done so that everything looks "normal"?
- qaq 3y agoIt's a bit of a straw man we know for a fact that advanced lifeforms can develop in the universe because we are one.
- RandomLensman 3y agoNot really. How do those lifeforms travel to earth? Needing new physics would be right back to allowing pretty much anything.
- qaq 3y agoWhy do they have to travel to earth ? A robotic probe can travel X thousand years with no need for new physics. Also there are life forms on earth that basically live forever. Also pretending that a theory that we invented a 100 years ago that is not even fully consistent is some hard limitation on some advanced civ is pretty crazy. Is it more believable that some entity on earth has discovered new physics and kept it secret vs some advanced extraterrestrial civ is more developed than we are ?