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We have gotten to the point where they admit to the presence of UAPs, now they need to release data of those sightings so that third parties can analyze it and

We have gotten to the point where they admit to the presence of UAPs, now they need to release data of those sightings so that third parties can analyze it and the academic peer review process can begin. Anything else is speculation, one way or another, and that won't lead to a broad consensus.

Avshalom 3y ago
Nothing except "yep it's definitely aliens" will lead to "broad consensus" because no analysis will be considered evidence against aliens by the people who already believe it's aliens.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  I think flat earthers and alike are always excempt, when someone speaks of a broad consensus.
- david-gpu 3y ago
  There is nothing to lose by declassifying and releasing the "high definition videos" that NASA's head and AARO's director talk about. Are you opposed to that? If you are, can you elaborate?
  - Avshalom 3y ago
    I'm not opposed, broadly speaking I don't really support the idea of classified or secret information at all (in like a government context, I'm not going to tell you my birthday and social#) It just won't do anything. And it's really obvious that it won't do anything.
  - crustaceansoup 3y ago
    They're usually classified because they reveal information on sensor capabilities, NASA's director talked about that at the press conference.
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    - david-gpu 3y ago
      And yet they are able to declassify some of them. Why only declassify three blurry dots in 2017 and one blurry sphere in 2022 when according to AARO they have about a thousand reports, including fifty sightings showing "anomalous" characteristics? The rather mundane-looking blurry stuff released in 2017 was captured using military equipment and it didn't stop them.
      - crustaceansoup 3y ago
        Didn't GOFAST/GIMBAL and the Nimitz tic-tac video leak? That could have given them convenient choices to look like they were cooperating. Could they be covering something up? I can't say it's impossible. I'm just saying that between the tendency towards overclassification, the UFO stigma, and seemingly legimitate counterintel concerns, it doesn't seem like this refusal is evidence of a cover-up in and of itself.
        david-gpu 3y ago
        I agree 100%
mcpackieh 3y ago
> We have gotten to the point where they admit to the presence of UAPs They have always "admitted to the existence of" things they can't identify in some videos, blurry photographs, radar tracks, etc. UAP doesn't mean aliens, it just means "I can't tell what this is." Most of these UAPs turn out to be shit like commercial airliners far away on the horizon, and they remain "unidentified" because nobody cares enough to actually figure out what they are. And you take this to be suggestive of aliens? Please!

Avshalom 3y ago

Nothing except "yep it's definitely aliens" will lead to "broad consensus" because no analysis will be considered evidence against aliens by the people who already believe it's aliens.

hutzlibu 3y ago
I think flat earthers and alike are always excempt, when someone speaks of a broad consensus.
david-gpu 3y ago
There is nothing to lose by declassifying and releasing the "high definition videos" that NASA's head and AARO's director talk about. Are you opposed to that? If you are, can you elaborate?
- Avshalom 3y ago
  I'm not opposed, broadly speaking I don't really support the idea of classified or secret information at all (in like a government context, I'm not going to tell you my birthday and social#) It just won't do anything. And it's really obvious that it won't do anything.
- crustaceansoup 3y ago
  They're usually classified because they reveal information on sensor capabilities, NASA's director talked about that at the press conference.
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  - david-gpu 3y ago
    And yet they are able to declassify some of them. Why only declassify three blurry dots in 2017 and one blurry sphere in 2022 when according to AARO they have about a thousand reports, including fifty sightings showing "anomalous" characteristics? The rather mundane-looking blurry stuff released in 2017 was captured using military equipment and it didn't stop them.
    - crustaceansoup 3y ago
      Didn't GOFAST/GIMBAL and the Nimitz tic-tac video leak? That could have given them convenient choices to look like they were cooperating. Could they be covering something up? I can't say it's impossible. I'm just saying that between the tendency towards overclassification, the UFO stigma, and seemingly legimitate counterintel concerns, it doesn't seem like this refusal is evidence of a cover-up in and of itself.
      - david-gpu 3y ago
        I agree 100%

mcpackieh 3y ago

> We have gotten to the point where they admit to the presence of UAPs They have always "admitted to the existence of" things they can't identify in some videos, blurry photographs, radar tracks, etc. UAP doesn't mean aliens, it just means "I can't tell what this is." Most of these UAPs turn out to be shit like commercial airliners far away on the horizon, and they remain "unidentified" because nobody cares enough to actually figure out what they are. And you take this to be suggestive of aliens? Please!