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I don’t think we should get rid of cruises, but I don’t see the movie theater comparison as valid. Movie theaters don’t emit tons of CO2. (One could also make t

I don’t think we should get rid of cruises, but I don’t see the movie theater comparison as valid. Movie theaters don’t emit tons of CO2. (One could also make the argument that movie theaters propagate the arts, which is a good purpose)

PM_me_your_math 3y ago
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Zak 3y ago
> Movie theaters don’t emit tons of CO2 Perhaps not directly, but in most of the USA, everyone in one drove a car there. The energy use from those same people streaming the movie at home would emit much less. I'm not for a ban on any of those, but very few activities are truly carbon neutral.
- igor47 3y ago
  I think it's a matter of scope. Cruise ships are unusually polluting. This is why folks argue to ban private jets and not commercial aviation. Or in this case, cruise and not container ships.
  - skeeter2020 3y ago
    A lot more people get "value" from Fox News vs. HN; ban the latter to save resources and those people can go do some productive with the time they're currently wasting.
    - felurx 3y ago
      Again: That's not a helpful comparison. Cruise ships have absolutely ridiculous emissions. HN does not.
igor47 3y ago
This makes sense to me as an argument. People downvoting this because they disagree is pretty sad.
skeeter2020 3y ago
Everyone drove a car to the theater to sit sedentary for 3+ hours and eat garbage food before driving home. Lots of societal bad there; why do you get to decide?
- BA_and_bored 3y ago
  Things you listed are parts of Murican way of life, not a part of cinema experience. Ppl around the world mostly use bikes or public transit or at least taxi to go to the cinema. In my local cinema they serve nice salads beside traditional pop-corn.
rqtwteye 3y ago
You have to look at the whole picture. The people who drive to the theater emit CO2. Same for car racing. I bet the emissions caused by the race cars are dwarfed by the emissions of people driving to any larger music concert.
osigurdson 3y ago
Most movie theatres propagate nonsense superhero stories. Lots of CO2 emitted in the creation of those. I guess we should delete movie theatres along with everything else. The problem with all such arguments as they are fundamentally nihilistic in the final analysis.
concordDance 3y ago
If CO2 is the concern then include the CO2 in the price via a CO2 tax (or a per person CO2 budget if you want something objectively worse but more intuitive, then people can save up their CO2 credits for a cruise if they really want a once in a lifetime thing).

PM_me_your_math 3y ago

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Zak 3y ago

> Movie theaters don’t emit tons of CO2 Perhaps not directly, but in most of the USA, everyone in one drove a car there. The energy use from those same people streaming the movie at home would emit much less. I'm not for a ban on any of those, but very few activities are truly carbon neutral.

igor47 3y ago
I think it's a matter of scope. Cruise ships are unusually polluting. This is why folks argue to ban private jets and not commercial aviation. Or in this case, cruise and not container ships.
- skeeter2020 3y ago
  A lot more people get "value" from Fox News vs. HN; ban the latter to save resources and those people can go do some productive with the time they're currently wasting.
  - felurx 3y ago
    Again: That's not a helpful comparison. Cruise ships have absolutely ridiculous emissions. HN does not.

igor47 3y ago

This makes sense to me as an argument. People downvoting this because they disagree is pretty sad.

skeeter2020 3y ago

Everyone drove a car to the theater to sit sedentary for 3+ hours and eat garbage food before driving home. Lots of societal bad there; why do you get to decide?

BA_and_bored 3y ago
Things you listed are parts of Murican way of life, not a part of cinema experience. Ppl around the world mostly use bikes or public transit or at least taxi to go to the cinema. In my local cinema they serve nice salads beside traditional pop-corn.

rqtwteye 3y ago

You have to look at the whole picture. The people who drive to the theater emit CO2. Same for car racing. I bet the emissions caused by the race cars are dwarfed by the emissions of people driving to any larger music concert.

osigurdson 3y ago

Most movie theatres propagate nonsense superhero stories. Lots of CO2 emitted in the creation of those. I guess we should delete movie theatres along with everything else. The problem with all such arguments as they are fundamentally nihilistic in the final analysis.

concordDance 3y ago

If CO2 is the concern then include the CO2 in the price via a CO2 tax (or a per person CO2 budget if you want something objectively worse but more intuitive, then people can save up their CO2 credits for a cruise if they really want a once in a lifetime thing).