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In 1991 dos navigator had an integrated file manager and editor like no other console file manager has: you could alt-tab and copy/paste from editors into shell

by xuhu 3y ago

In 1991 dos navigator had an integrated file manager and editor like no other console file manager has: you could alt-tab and copy/paste from editors into shell commands interactively. In 2023 I still need two extra terminals for vim and for bash. And text selection is mouse-only.

zelphirkalt 3y ago
Doesn't Emacs fit that bill? In Emacs you can run terminal emulators and various shells and from all of them you can copy and paste into other buffers or from other buffers into them.
- lisplist 3y ago
  To add to this: I had lots of problems with Emacs terminal emulators until I switched to VTerm. Most things work like you’d expect in VTerm.
  - zelphirkalt 3y ago
    Yep, vterm is great. Only thing annoying me is, that I have to switch modes to copy anything. Wish it would work like `M-x shell` instead, where I can simply navigate upwards and when I move point back to the prompt, I can paste and continue with commands.
forgotpwd16 3y ago
Vim has split screen support and built-in virtual terminal supporting normal mode. For file manager can use fern written in pure vimscript. In 2023 you were just not aware of them.
thesuperbigfrog 3y ago
>> In 2023 I still need two extra terminals for vim and for bash. And text selection is mouse-only. Terminal multiplexers like tmux, GNU screen, and others allow for keyboard-based text selection and copy / paste. Many advanced editors like VS Code, Emacs, and other have built-in terminals and keyboard commands to select, copy, and paste text.
- pshirshov 3y ago
  Still, DN experience beats everything what we have today. Of course there were lot less features and many limitatitons, but the overall experience was great.
3np 3y ago
tmux does this too if you use buffers. Check out zellij. If using a multiplexer is not for you and you're all in a graphical environment, I believe you might find kitty worth a closer look. > In 2023 I still need two extra terminals for vim and for bash. wat
samus 3y ago
Vim and Emacs have advanced navigation modes that can totally make up for lacking mouse support. On the console, many use cases where you'd need copy&paste can be covered by autocompleters. For example branch names in version control. Someday I'll have to look into how to write my own... Edit: with !, you can execute a shell command and watch its output without leaving Vim.
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by xuhu 3y ago

zelphirkalt 3y ago

Doesn't Emacs fit that bill? In Emacs you can run terminal emulators and various shells and from all of them you can copy and paste into other buffers or from other buffers into them.

lisplist 3y ago
To add to this: I had lots of problems with Emacs terminal emulators until I switched to VTerm. Most things work like you’d expect in VTerm.
- zelphirkalt 3y ago
  Yep, vterm is great. Only thing annoying me is, that I have to switch modes to copy anything. Wish it would work like `M-x shell` instead, where I can simply navigate upwards and when I move point back to the prompt, I can paste and continue with commands.

forgotpwd16 3y ago

Vim has split screen support and built-in virtual terminal supporting normal mode. For file manager can use fern written in pure vimscript. In 2023 you were just not aware of them.

thesuperbigfrog 3y ago

>> In 2023 I still need two extra terminals for vim and for bash. And text selection is mouse-only. Terminal multiplexers like tmux, GNU screen, and others allow for keyboard-based text selection and copy / paste. Many advanced editors like VS Code, Emacs, and other have built-in terminals and keyboard commands to select, copy, and paste text.

pshirshov 3y ago
Still, DN experience beats everything what we have today. Of course there were lot less features and many limitatitons, but the overall experience was great.

3np 3y ago

tmux does this too if you use buffers. Check out zellij. If using a multiplexer is not for you and you're all in a graphical environment, I believe you might find kitty worth a closer look. > In 2023 I still need two extra terminals for vim and for bash. wat

samus 3y ago

Vim and Emacs have advanced navigation modes that can totally make up for lacking mouse support. On the console, many use cases where you'd need copy&paste can be covered by autocompleters. For example branch names in version control. Someday I'll have to look into how to write my own... Edit: with !, you can execute a shell command and watch its output without leaving Vim.

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