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My cursory web search indicates that the van moof MSRPs were something like 2x to 3x that of the motocompacto at $995[1] and, not to snark but it does appear th

My cursory web search indicates that the van moof MSRPs were something like 2x to 3x that of the motocompacto at $995[1] and, not to snark but it does appear that company went bankrupt while selling at that price point. A more direct comparison might be the Niu KQI3 e-scooter which claims 30 miles, 45 pounds, at $800. [2] [1] https://motocompacto.honda.com/ https://motocompacto.honda.com/ [2] https://shop.niu.com/products/niu-electric-kick-scooter-for-adults-kqi3-pro https://shop.niu.com/products/niu-electric-kick-scooter-for-...

walthamstow 3y ago
Ebikes with 30-40 mile range are available for much cheaper than 3k, I only referenced the VM because I have one and I know the range very well. 12 miles is not sufficient in almost any major city. I'm struggling to think of a use case for a vehicle with such short range. It does look cool though!
- blamazon 3y ago
  >12 miles is not sufficient in almost any major city. I'm struggling to think of a use case for a vehicle with such short range. Two things: 1. This is intended as a first-last mile intermodal device, not a primary commuter. It is plenty for any city where you want to go from your house to a train station that is perhaps a 30 minute walk (1.5-2 miles) away. Easy way to save on rent without sacrificing time, since rent goes up as you get closer to a train station in most cities. Or, you might be driving from a roomy suburb to a park and ride that is a similar distance from your work downtown. Or, you might be able to take two 5 minute train journeys to work, but there's an annoying 30 minute walk transfer in the middle. Myself, I struggle to think of an intermodal use-case that does not make sense for this in say, any Japanese urban city I've been to. 2. This is a Honda product, in the spirit of the MotoCompo, which was sold as an accessory to a car. [1] Think of it also that way - You've effectively expanded your last-mile parking radius from your destination by six miles. That's plenty in even cities without good public transit - going back to the saving money idea, $995 doesn't pay for much commuter parking in an urban core downtown type of environment. [1]: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-honda-city-turbo-ii-with-motocompo/ https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-honda-city-turbo-ii-w...
chipsa 3y ago
I literally have just bought a new e-bike for not much more[0] (mine was pre-order, so a bit cheaper than currently). Claim is up to 60 miles, depending on conditions, at 45lbs. 0: https://www.prioritybicycles.com/products/eclassicplus?variant=39832510070861 https://www.prioritybicycles.com/products/eclassicplus?varia...
- avery17 3y ago
  Oh sick, I've been looking for an e-bike that doesn't look stupid. Thanks!

walthamstow 3y ago

Ebikes with 30-40 mile range are available for much cheaper than 3k, I only referenced the VM because I have one and I know the range very well. 12 miles is not sufficient in almost any major city. I'm struggling to think of a use case for a vehicle with such short range. It does look cool though!

blamazon 3y ago
>12 miles is not sufficient in almost any major city. I'm struggling to think of a use case for a vehicle with such short range. Two things: 1. This is intended as a first-last mile intermodal device, not a primary commuter. It is plenty for any city where you want to go from your house to a train station that is perhaps a 30 minute walk (1.5-2 miles) away. Easy way to save on rent without sacrificing time, since rent goes up as you get closer to a train station in most cities. Or, you might be driving from a roomy suburb to a park and ride that is a similar distance from your work downtown. Or, you might be able to take two 5 minute train journeys to work, but there's an annoying 30 minute walk transfer in the middle. Myself, I struggle to think of an intermodal use-case that does not make sense for this in say, any Japanese urban city I've been to. 2. This is a Honda product, in the spirit of the MotoCompo, which was sold as an accessory to a car. [1] Think of it also that way - You've effectively expanded your last-mile parking radius from your destination by six miles. That's plenty in even cities without good public transit - going back to the saving money idea, $995 doesn't pay for much commuter parking in an urban core downtown type of environment. [1]: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-honda-city-turbo-ii-with-motocompo/ https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-honda-city-turbo-ii-w...

chipsa 3y ago

I literally have just bought a new e-bike for not much more[0] (mine was pre-order, so a bit cheaper than currently). Claim is up to 60 miles, depending on conditions, at 45lbs. 0: https://www.prioritybicycles.com/products/eclassicplus?variant=39832510070861 https://www.prioritybicycles.com/products/eclassicplus?varia...

avery17 3y ago
Oh sick, I've been looking for an e-bike that doesn't look stupid. Thanks!