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Is woke really the modern version of hippie/green? I feel like a lot of people myself included can support and appreciate environmental issues but have no inter

Is woke really the modern version of hippie/green? I feel like a lot of people myself included can support and appreciate environmental issues but have no interest in this woke culture nonsense.

trilbyglens 3y ago
Hippies were much more about social inclusion than environmental issues though at the time. So I think yes the woke movement is definitely a descent of the hippy movement. Wokism has a stronger focus on racial elements, bit that was definitely present in the 60s too, just less militant in the hippy movement than it was in the black power movement. Possibly you could argue that wokism fuses black power and hippyism.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > Hippies were much more about social inclusion than environmental issues though at the time. I would argue that they weren't, as a movement, about either, but more inward-directed self-discovery. They were contemporaries with both movements for social inclusion (the civil rights movement) and the beginnings of environmentalism as a mass social movement, and were distinct from both of those kinds of activist movements. They had more in common and probably more overlap with the environmentalist movement (like the hippies, a predominantly white, middle-class movement.) “Wokism” isn’t an actual movement, its just a replacement name for “political correctness” used as a label for same right-wing general-purpose boogeyman that PC served as a label for from the late 1970s until the recent replacement with first and briefly “critical race theory” and, when that proved a bit cumbersome as a generic label, “wokism”.
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jncfhnb 3y ago
That’s largely because woke culture is not a real thing. It is vastly inflated by the same folks that said similar things about hippies. The extreme views that are given the most attention are fringe and not popular.
ttymck 3y ago
Is "green" really the modern version of hippie? I can support free expression and tolerance, but forcing me to stop using my gas car is nonsense.
- deprecative 3y ago
  Except nobody is forcing you to stop using your ICE car.
  - ttymck 3y ago
    It seems my point wasn't clear. Sorry for that.

Is woke really the modern version of hippie/green? I feel like a lot of people myself included can support and appreciate environmental issues but have no interest in this woke culture nonsense.

trilbyglens 3y ago

Hippies were much more about social inclusion than environmental issues though at the time. So I think yes the woke movement is definitely a descent of the hippy movement. Wokism has a stronger focus on racial elements, bit that was definitely present in the 60s too, just less militant in the hippy movement than it was in the black power movement. Possibly you could argue that wokism fuses black power and hippyism.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> Hippies were much more about social inclusion than environmental issues though at the time. I would argue that they weren't, as a movement, about either, but more inward-directed self-discovery. They were contemporaries with both movements for social inclusion (the civil rights movement) and the beginnings of environmentalism as a mass social movement, and were distinct from both of those kinds of activist movements. They had more in common and probably more overlap with the environmentalist movement (like the hippies, a predominantly white, middle-class movement.) “Wokism” isn’t an actual movement, its just a replacement name for “political correctness” used as a label for same right-wing general-purpose boogeyman that PC served as a label for from the late 1970s until the recent replacement with first and briefly “critical race theory” and, when that proved a bit cumbersome as a generic label, “wokism”.

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jncfhnb 3y ago

That’s largely because woke culture is not a real thing. It is vastly inflated by the same folks that said similar things about hippies. The extreme views that are given the most attention are fringe and not popular.

ttymck 3y ago

Is "green" really the modern version of hippie? I can support free expression and tolerance, but forcing me to stop using my gas car is nonsense.

deprecative 3y ago
Except nobody is forcing you to stop using your ICE car.
- ttymck 3y ago
  It seems my point wasn't clear. Sorry for that.