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I checked out your link, maybe you know more. I am hoping to find other graphs to dismiss these 2 graphs below: https://xkcd.com/1732/ https://xkcd.com/1732/

I checked out your link, maybe you know more. I am hoping to find other graphs to dismiss these 2 graphs below: https://xkcd.com/1732/ https://xkcd.com/1732/ https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-relentless-rise-of-carbon-dioxide/ https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-re...

OrvalWintermute 3y ago
Starting a timeline at 20k years ago when we were, or near to the peak of the Last Glacial Maximum is not only deceptive, and most of Canada was under the giant Laurentide & Cordilleran glaciers, as was much of Asia, is frankly unscientific and alarming. A simple response to that is a graph of glaciation cycles https://opentextbc.ca/geology/chapter/16-1-glacial-periods-in-earths-history/ https://opentextbc.ca/geology/chapter/16-1-glacial-periods-i... In respect to CO2 https://mashable.com/article/co2-earth-history-climate-change https://mashable.com/article/co2-earth-history-climate-chang... or any longterm measurement of CO2 levels, however, speaking from a scientific perspective there is a great deal incorrect with current processes of measuring CO2 levels from ancient ice cores. During the Last Glacial Maximum, many plants showed evidence of CO2 starvation also, which is part of the reason why desertification increased so much during the LGM.
- paulkrush 3y ago
  I can't see your first comment(it's flagged) to reply more. How many down votes does this take to get flagged like this? When you talk millions you have a point, but it does not apply to modern humans. (That I can see). I think hockey sticks(in my lifetime) are really meaningful in 20,000 year graphs. There is a lot of money out there to poke holes in these 20K year graphs, so I am looking for this holes.
  - OrvalWintermute 3y ago
    > This is not new, we are still coming out of an Ice Age from a climate perspective, and the historical record bears evidence of a warmer Antartica > https://phys.org/news/2021-03-fossil-forests-antarctic-ice.html https://phys.org/news/2021-03-fossil-forests-antarctic-ice.h... I don't know on the downvotes question.
    - defrost 3y ago
      > I'm skeptical about Darwinian evolution because I see little to no credible evidence for it. Exactly how many of the 22 full-length books and 700+ papers by Alfred Russel Wallace have you read though? They're packed with meticilous observations direct from decades of field work on both sides of what is now known as the Wallace line. Wallace had a better grasp on evolution than Darwin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace
      - OrvalWintermute 3y ago
        I haven't ready any of the books by Alfred Wallace. Will put one on the list.

OrvalWintermute 3y ago

Starting a timeline at 20k years ago when we were, or near to the peak of the Last Glacial Maximum is not only deceptive, and most of Canada was under the giant Laurentide & Cordilleran glaciers, as was much of Asia, is frankly unscientific and alarming. A simple response to that is a graph of glaciation cycles https://opentextbc.ca/geology/chapter/16-1-glacial-periods-in-earths-history/ https://opentextbc.ca/geology/chapter/16-1-glacial-periods-i... In respect to CO2 https://mashable.com/article/co2-earth-history-climate-change https://mashable.com/article/co2-earth-history-climate-chang... or any longterm measurement of CO2 levels, however, speaking from a scientific perspective there is a great deal incorrect with current processes of measuring CO2 levels from ancient ice cores. During the Last Glacial Maximum, many plants showed evidence of CO2 starvation also, which is part of the reason why desertification increased so much during the LGM.

paulkrush 3y ago
I can't see your first comment(it's flagged) to reply more. How many down votes does this take to get flagged like this? When you talk millions you have a point, but it does not apply to modern humans. (That I can see). I think hockey sticks(in my lifetime) are really meaningful in 20,000 year graphs. There is a lot of money out there to poke holes in these 20K year graphs, so I am looking for this holes.
- OrvalWintermute 3y ago
  > This is not new, we are still coming out of an Ice Age from a climate perspective, and the historical record bears evidence of a warmer Antartica > https://phys.org/news/2021-03-fossil-forests-antarctic-ice.html https://phys.org/news/2021-03-fossil-forests-antarctic-ice.h... I don't know on the downvotes question.
  - defrost 3y ago
    > I'm skeptical about Darwinian evolution because I see little to no credible evidence for it. Exactly how many of the 22 full-length books and 700+ papers by Alfred Russel Wallace have you read though? They're packed with meticilous observations direct from decades of field work on both sides of what is now known as the Wallace line. Wallace had a better grasp on evolution than Darwin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace
    - OrvalWintermute 3y ago
      I haven't ready any of the books by Alfred Wallace. Will put one on the list.