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One other question: Is there legal basis in Denmark for asking for proof that they control the copyright for the listed works? DMCAs operate on "good-faith beli

One other question: Is there legal basis in Denmark for asking for proof that they control the copyright for the listed works? DMCAs operate on "good-faith belief, under penalty of perjury" but in international situations it becomes trickier. If anyone knows of a Danish lawyer I could consult with, or someone versed in international affairs, please let me know. (Or if you care to contribute funding. Hosting costs around $140/mo right now, which isn't free, but paying for consultation is costlier.)

rmbyrro 3y ago
If you're worried about DMCA, you should comply immediately. If you're not obligated to comply with DMCA, why do bother with such question? If there's no process set by law, set yours yourself. By "overseas" and "outside the reach of DMCA", be careful how you draw the lines. Did you incorporate overseas? How are you separating you personally from your corporation? If you are based in a country that obligates you to follow DMCA and if your corporation is nothing but paper and you're the only person involved, a judge might disconsider the corporation as a mere way for you to escape your local jurisdictional obligations.
- nostril 3y ago
  We're not worried. Our operation is anonymous, and as long as we don't slip up, we'll be fine. Though saying "don't slip up" is very "draw the rest of the owl"; it's most of the work: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37346620 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37346620 But we'd like to do the right thing ethically, which is hard to figure out. Hypothetically, if you were going to set up a process for yourself outside of the law, what criteria would you use?
  - rmbyrro 3y ago
    Disconsidering the law, I'd use the books to train AI. I could use it to train myself, right? What's wrong with training a machine But if you're distributing the contents of these books, that's another story. You're pirating, not training AIs. It didn't end up well for the guys behind The Pirate Bay, unfortunately. They can find you. If they can't bust you for copyright infringement, they'll just make stuff up until they put you in jail. Especially if you offend their personalities. Be careful!..
yuliyp 3y ago
I don't think (read: about 99% sure) that DMCA safe harbor applies to someone serving a repository that they themselves have compiled so there's no sense in a rights holder using that process. They can ask with varying levels of niceness and/or sue.

rmbyrro 3y ago

If you're worried about DMCA, you should comply immediately. If you're not obligated to comply with DMCA, why do bother with such question? If there's no process set by law, set yours yourself. By "overseas" and "outside the reach of DMCA", be careful how you draw the lines. Did you incorporate overseas? How are you separating you personally from your corporation? If you are based in a country that obligates you to follow DMCA and if your corporation is nothing but paper and you're the only person involved, a judge might disconsider the corporation as a mere way for you to escape your local jurisdictional obligations.

nostril 3y ago
We're not worried. Our operation is anonymous, and as long as we don't slip up, we'll be fine. Though saying "don't slip up" is very "draw the rest of the owl"; it's most of the work: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37346620 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37346620 But we'd like to do the right thing ethically, which is hard to figure out. Hypothetically, if you were going to set up a process for yourself outside of the law, what criteria would you use?
- rmbyrro 3y ago
  Disconsidering the law, I'd use the books to train AI. I could use it to train myself, right? What's wrong with training a machine But if you're distributing the contents of these books, that's another story. You're pirating, not training AIs. It didn't end up well for the guys behind The Pirate Bay, unfortunately. They can find you. If they can't bust you for copyright infringement, they'll just make stuff up until they put you in jail. Especially if you offend their personalities. Be careful!..

yuliyp 3y ago

I don't think (read: about 99% sure) that DMCA safe harbor applies to someone serving a repository that they themselves have compiled so there's no sense in a rights holder using that process. They can ask with varying levels of niceness and/or sue.