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Thank you for this! A voice of reason to go against the big outrage machine being fired up. Your take makes so much more sense. Sarcasm and jaded humour can com

Thank you for this! A voice of reason to go against the big outrage machine being fired up. Your take makes so much more sense. Sarcasm and jaded humour can come across really badly when taken out of context. To anyone seeing this I'd suggest to watch the actual recording. It's only 2m30s long and linked by the article [0]. I spent a bit of time in an environment around helping people with disabilities and this sounds quite familiar. It had the worst jokes and the most horrible kind of humour. It helps coping with what is essentially a shitty environment and being exposed to how bad things can be for people. It didn't stop anyone from actually helping people and being decent. But yeah, it wouldn't have looked good at all if it was recorded. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey_wASffmek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey_wASffmek

jstarfish 3y ago
> Sarcasm and jaded humour can come across really badly when you taken out of context. Yep, especially when you leave just enough out of the parts you quote to be able to spin this into either a cops-are-evil, cops-are-misogynist, or cops-are-racist narrative to suit your audience. "No, she's just a normal person" is deliberately omitted from the article, despite it establishing the context for everything reported on. > I spent a bit of time in an environment around helping people with disabilities and this sounds quite familiar. It had the worst jokes and the most horrible kind of humour. You get it. Most of us have been there or participated in it ourselves, whether or not we admit it. The sad part is, he wasn't making Frogger jokes or anything-- he was making a statement about the criteria by which the city would justify undercompensating the victim's family for their loss. He's clearly disillusioned with the institution he works for...same as the rest of us. Rather than using his inadvertent disclosure to ask some very pointed questions about how the city has historically compensated families for civilian deaths (where did he come up the idea for an $11k payout?), the internet outrage machine is spun up to crucify the guy who made a private gaffe about it.
- throwaway128128 3y ago
  The Seattle PD has a history of brutality and poor service, they have active consent decrees for use of excessive force.

jstarfish 3y ago

> Sarcasm and jaded humour can come across really badly when you taken out of context. Yep, especially when you leave just enough out of the parts you quote to be able to spin this into either a cops-are-evil, cops-are-misogynist, or cops-are-racist narrative to suit your audience. "No, she's just a normal person" is deliberately omitted from the article, despite it establishing the context for everything reported on. > I spent a bit of time in an environment around helping people with disabilities and this sounds quite familiar. It had the worst jokes and the most horrible kind of humour. You get it. Most of us have been there or participated in it ourselves, whether or not we admit it. The sad part is, he wasn't making Frogger jokes or anything-- he was making a statement about the criteria by which the city would justify undercompensating the victim's family for their loss. He's clearly disillusioned with the institution he works for...same as the rest of us. Rather than using his inadvertent disclosure to ask some very pointed questions about how the city has historically compensated families for civilian deaths (where did he come up the idea for an $11k payout?), the internet outrage machine is spun up to crucify the guy who made a private gaffe about it.

throwaway128128 3y ago
The Seattle PD has a history of brutality and poor service, they have active consent decrees for use of excessive force.