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Ask HN: Is there a HN for music?
I have been thinking about this recently and thought I would throw it out to the group. Is there a destination online that has meaningful discourse around music?
Hype Machine is the first thing that comes to mind, but I'd love to hear more thoughts about any HN or Friendfeed type conversations that are going on out there. Perhaps even suggestions of Twitter or Friendfeed people to follow to get a better idea of what's going on in the music world.
- theoneill 18y agohttp://thesixtyone.com http://thesixtyone.com may be what you're looking for.
- stern 18y agoit seems like a lot of that music is pirated.
- rms 18y agoOh no!
- PStamatiou 18y agoas a long-time 61 user - no. a ton of it is indie music. it just happens that the few pirated songs on there get popular very fast and flood the homepages.
- moxy 18y agoWhile I'm pretty sure this doesn't offer the intellectual discourse you're looking for, http://cherrypeel.com http://cherrypeel.com utilizes a very reddit-style voting system to promote underground, independent music. I've discovered some fantastic new artists from this site.
- wastedbrains 18y agoright after I posted I saw that I had missed you already recommending this site. Yeah not the disourse, but a well done and interesting way to find good new music.
- zacharye 18y agoMusic is such a polarizing topic, if there is a place that has managed to put together a community of reasonable people and consistently interesting/civil discussion I will be surprised and impressed.
- staunch 18y agoIf we can deal with programming languages, text editors, and operating systems here then music people should be just fine.
- jamesbritt 18y ago"If we can deal with programming languages, text editors, and operating systems here then music people should be just fine." I certainly hope you posted that from a Ruby script written in vi on Ubuntu.
- ionrock 18y agoThere is also http://pandora.com/ http://pandora.com/ It doesn't have voting, but for finding music it can be alright.
- yan 18y agoI came here to suggest hypem.com, but you just mentioned it. Maybe follow some blog posts listed there?
- tricky 18y agoNot much discourse, but the guy at http://www.audioindie.com http://www.audioindie.com is really up on the indie music scene.
- inimino 18y agohttp://rateyourmusic.com/ http://rateyourmusic.com/ has a nice rating and recommendation system and is a good way to find new music (and procrastinate). They also have discussion forums, which I haven't tried.
- hhm 18y agoI like http://thefeelgood.com/ http://thefeelgood.com/
- wastedbrains 18y agovoting and such just like reddit, HN, or DIGG but with embeddable songs to listen to... http://cherrypeel.com/ http://cherrypeel.com/
- kf 18y agoThe forums at www.waffles.fm -- I have never seen a place better to make a post "I like such and such obscure bands/types of music; please give me recommendations." I've also discovered a great amount of new music by watching the internal top10 lists. Email me, I have some invites...
- moxy 18y agoAny private music tracker forum will do. I have invitations as well, if anyone is interested.
- rms 18y agoYes, what.cd is equal to waffles, are there other ones?
- moxy 18y agoYes, to say the least. But they are far more specialized, and more difficult to invite people to. And, you probably wouldn't be interested anyway. However, What and Waffles are the largest and most content-oriented.
- rms 18y agoAny that might have reasonable amounts of non-Western classical music? Email me, please...
- rms 18y agoOK, I got the emails from everyone, will send invites as they open and I have invites, which could take a while.
- Wesmax27 18y agoIf anyone is interested in chiming in further while we are here, I'd be really curious to know the top ways people are discovering new music right now. For me it is: Sirius XM U (formerly Left of Center); Hype Machine; Pitchfork; Songkick (for finding shows in my area); URB Magazine; Fader Magazine; OHHLA Top 25
- nicefishfilms 18y agoI'm enjoying- http://noisetrade.com http://noisetrade.com http://grooveshark.com http://grooveshark.com
- Wesmax27 18y agoThanks. Noisetrade is pretty awesome.
- unalone 18y ago"HN for music?" What does that mean? Hacker News is a place for people who are passionate about a subject to talk. The equivalent would most likely be a forum discussing classical music, or a form of music that requires similar dedication.
- brightscreamer 18y agoYou're looking for I Love Music. Seriously. www.ilxor.com
- dmix 18y agohttp://contrastream.com http://contrastream.com, my previous startup.
- jaytee_clone 18y agoStart one.
- edb 18y agoI did a radio show for two years, and all the recommendations on this page are a great way of finding music, but by no means are they better than just reading interviews and articles on your favourite artists, find out what makes them tick. Heck, go to a concert at your local (smaller) venue and chat with the band if you liked what they did. That was always the best way I found music, lots and lots and lots of research and discussion with like minded people, mostly at shows. ... at least until www.last.fm came about. :) This, in my opinion, is the best way to find music that's in line with what you listen to. It takes what you listen to and finds people who listen to the same thing. It then finds out what they're listening to that you're not. Yes, you have to feed it your listening record, but once you've done that, your life won't be the same. I don't know why it's so neglected. In fact, I always thought this would be the best way to run HN. Take all the articles I've upvoted, find people who've upvoted the same articles, look at what they've upvoted that I haven't and show me THAT on the main page. The main problem with a HN for music is that music is too subjective and immeasurable. In hacking, you can argue stats, performance, visitors, etc. Music is different. More people listen to Brittany Spears than North of America, she also made more money, but there's no fully logical way to argue why she sucks. It's all a matter of perception and emotions. You can't wrap a webapp around that, nor can you get a group of people to agree on what's good and what's not because tastes vary so greatly.
- tjstankus 18y agoUpmodded for North of America reference. One of my favorites.
- edb 18y agoThanks. That got me all wet to dance.
- Wesmax27 18y agoThanks for the insightful post. One question though: don't you think your highlight about last.fm and approach to HN is a little too homogenous? While I can appreciate music suggestions that are in line with my taste, that is easy enough to find on my own (through the methods you suggested). What isn't easy to find are bands that sound nothing like what I've heard, but could be just as brilliant as the bands I know and love. This is where I think the suggestions in this thread are most useful. And I would go even further to argue that because music is subjective and immeasurable it would make an even more interesting discussion. Thanks too for North of America - I haven't heard them but will definitely check them out.
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- espadagroup 18y agohttp://mog.com http://mog.com is a great music site that is more centered around the community writing about music as well as sharing it.
- delackner 18y agoI would think part of the spirit of HN would manifest in a music site as a focus on music that in some way feels like it brings something new to the art. Almost all the music that becomes popular today, even within specific genres, is not that inventive. Yet there are some artists that, at specific times, try something that really feels new. In the dance music space for instance, about 2001(+- 2 years) artists discovered they could for instance loop over a segment of their song, then shorten the loop until it became a stuttered noisy instant, then continue with the rest of the song. This sounded amazing at first, then everyone copied it, now people are used to it and a song has to use it creatively to make people smile.