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Did you know? You can use hieroglyphs right here, right now and pretty much everywhere else: 𓂺 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_hieroglyphs ht

Did you know? You can use hieroglyphs right here, right now and pretty much everywhere else: 𓂺 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_hieroglyphs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_hieroglyphs

jheriko 3y ago
the unicode implementation is garbage... 𓂋𓐍 see? also wikihiero is crappy. meanwhile, i don't suck at rudimentary code and banged this out quickly after self-teaching to fix it after the fact: https://github.com/semiessessi/beautiful-hieroglyphs/blob/main/README.md https://github.com/semiessessi/beautiful-hieroglyphs/blob/ma... also most other tools suck.
- demetrius 3y ago
  > most other tools suck. Your think they suck because they're not coloured? But black-and-white images are standard, that's how you'll be seeing them in dictionaries, textbooks and transcriptions. Also, I think some hieratic texts use different inks, like red and black, and the transcription into hieroglyphs needs to convey this difference. If you use a coloured hieroglyphic font, it would be hard to transcribe these hieratic texts.
- emmelaich 3y ago
  Please add images to the README!
  - jheriko 3y ago
    added one. thanks for the suggestion
canjobear 3y ago
𓁏
- vkazanov 3y ago
  A million?
evertedsphere 3y ago
https://www.persee.fr/doc/sphin_2003-170x_1912_num_16_1_1663 https://www.persee.fr/doc/sphin_2003-170x_1912_num_16_1_1663
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gattilorenz 3y ago
Also, despite there being a (well, multiple) hyeroglyphs with a penis, it seems that to say "penis" you need to use (at least) three hyeroglyphs of which only the last one is a penis: https://app.vega-lexique.fr/?entries=w9978 https://app.vega-lexique.fr/?entries=w9978 That sounds... vaguely inefficient to me? Then again, it's the same for "dog" ( https://app.vega-lexique.fr/?entries=w1699 https://app.vega-lexique.fr/?entries=w1699 ), so maybe I should start studying acient Egyptian to find out what's going on here... maybe it's determiners, or symbols to signify the start of a noun (but then, why are they different between "penis" and "dog"?)? Explanations are welcome!
- jheriko 3y ago
  determinatives are for disambiguiating words and clarity. everything is phonetically spelled minus some vowels (usually assumed to be 'e'). sounds can be overspecified for clarity. some of the symbols have multiple consonants. here is something short i made whilst working toward automatic transcription, transliteration and translation https://imgur.com/a/KjkYKZS https://imgur.com/a/KjkYKZS 4 of the glyphs here are silent, despite having phonetic values (or you could look at it as different glyphs being silent...) interesting point about the penis glyphs is that Google Noto font project has purposefully decided to leave it as tofu, so much for "no more tofu". Microsoft have done the same with their Segoe font...
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- demetrius 3y ago
  > That sounds... vaguely inefficient to me? All languages and writing have built-in redundancy In Egyptian, you can probably get away with writing the determiner in question + vertical stroke below it, to mean the determined thing. I guess Egyptians would understand you (that's how they wrote some common words like 'sun', with sun disk + | stroke). The vertical stroke is somewhat like putting spaces around the symbol in our writing system. But usually that's not desirable because then you need to be extra-careful with drawing your dog or penis. And most writing wasn't carved in stone, it was a simplified hieratic style where a length of one stroke could be very important So, some redundancy is useful. In Egyptian it usually means adding phonetic symbols before the image (imagine drawing a pen before a penis to show how the word sounds; then, you could have also drawn a duck before penis before the penis image to mean a different word that sounds like duck).

jheriko 3y ago

the unicode implementation is garbage... 𓂋𓐍 see? also wikihiero is crappy. meanwhile, i don't suck at rudimentary code and banged this out quickly after self-teaching to fix it after the fact: https://github.com/semiessessi/beautiful-hieroglyphs/blob/main/README.md https://github.com/semiessessi/beautiful-hieroglyphs/blob/ma... also most other tools suck.

demetrius 3y ago
> most other tools suck. Your think they suck because they're not coloured? But black-and-white images are standard, that's how you'll be seeing them in dictionaries, textbooks and transcriptions. Also, I think some hieratic texts use different inks, like red and black, and the transcription into hieroglyphs needs to convey this difference. If you use a coloured hieroglyphic font, it would be hard to transcribe these hieratic texts.
emmelaich 3y ago
Please add images to the README!
- jheriko 3y ago
  added one. thanks for the suggestion

canjobear 3y ago

𓁏

vkazanov 3y ago
A million?

evertedsphere 3y ago

https://www.persee.fr/doc/sphin_2003-170x_1912_num_16_1_1663 https://www.persee.fr/doc/sphin_2003-170x_1912_num_16_1_1663

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gattilorenz 3y ago

Also, despite there being a (well, multiple) hyeroglyphs with a penis, it seems that to say "penis" you need to use (at least) three hyeroglyphs of which only the last one is a penis: https://app.vega-lexique.fr/?entries=w9978 https://app.vega-lexique.fr/?entries=w9978 That sounds... vaguely inefficient to me? Then again, it's the same for "dog" ( https://app.vega-lexique.fr/?entries=w1699 https://app.vega-lexique.fr/?entries=w1699 ), so maybe I should start studying acient Egyptian to find out what's going on here... maybe it's determiners, or symbols to signify the start of a noun (but then, why are they different between "penis" and "dog"?)? Explanations are welcome!

jheriko 3y ago
determinatives are for disambiguiating words and clarity. everything is phonetically spelled minus some vowels (usually assumed to be 'e'). sounds can be overspecified for clarity. some of the symbols have multiple consonants. here is something short i made whilst working toward automatic transcription, transliteration and translation https://imgur.com/a/KjkYKZS https://imgur.com/a/KjkYKZS 4 of the glyphs here are silent, despite having phonetic values (or you could look at it as different glyphs being silent...) interesting point about the penis glyphs is that Google Noto font project has purposefully decided to leave it as tofu, so much for "no more tofu". Microsoft have done the same with their Segoe font...
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demetrius 3y ago
> That sounds... vaguely inefficient to me? All languages and writing have built-in redundancy In Egyptian, you can probably get away with writing the determiner in question + vertical stroke below it, to mean the determined thing. I guess Egyptians would understand you (that's how they wrote some common words like 'sun', with sun disk + | stroke). The vertical stroke is somewhat like putting spaces around the symbol in our writing system. But usually that's not desirable because then you need to be extra-careful with drawing your dog or penis. And most writing wasn't carved in stone, it was a simplified hieratic style where a length of one stroke could be very important So, some redundancy is useful. In Egyptian it usually means adding phonetic symbols before the image (imagine drawing a pen before a penis to show how the word sounds; then, you could have also drawn a duck before penis before the penis image to mean a different word that sounds like duck).