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>If they can't reproduce, then feeding them actually reduces the harm they cause because they won't need to go out hunting for food. That's completely unfounde

by prvc 3y ago

>If they can't reproduce, then feeding them actually reduces the harm they cause because they won't need to go out hunting for food. That's completely unfounded speculation and wishful-thinking. Would you like for cats to deposit their parasite-laden (human-infecting, incurable) feces in your herb garden, where your children play, or directly outside of a window you need for ventilation? If so, than there are certainly others who would not. Basic decency demands that you don't facilitate this.

ivraatiems 3y ago
> That's completely unfounded speculation and wishful-thinking. It's not 'speculation' to suggest that logically, an animal which is not hungry won't expend energy to hunt for food. > Basic decency demands that you don't facilitate this. Basic decency demands showing compassion to animals in need. But if there's one thing I'm seeing in this thread, it's lots of people who seem to think their views on these matters are moral universals. > Would you like for cats to deposit their parasite-laden (human-infecting, incurable) feces in your herb garden, where your children play, or directly outside of a window you need for ventilation? Do you even know how cats decide where to poop, or what they do with their feces? Cat feces doesn't just sit out, they bury them. While it's true feral animals - including many cats - harbor parasites, healthy cats are typically fastidiously clean. Much cleaner than dogs, and I should know, I have both. You have awfully strong opinions but they don't seem like they're based in much knowledge.
- prvc 3y ago
  >It's not 'speculation' to suggest that logically, an animal which is not hungry won't expend energy to hunt for food. Your argument remains as merely some vague hand-waving, still with no evidence presented.
  - ivraatiems 3y ago
    It feels like you're being deliberately obtuse, but, here you go: https://www.unitedspayalliance.org/feral-cats-if-you-feed-them-please-fix-them/ https://www.unitedspayalliance.org/feral-cats-if-you-feed-th... https://www.felina-sicily.org/en/how-to/to-feed-or-not/ https://www.felina-sicily.org/en/how-to/to-feed-or-not/ https://www.feralcats.com/good-neighbor https://www.feralcats.com/good-neighbor https://spayneuterspringfield.org/feral-cat-info https://spayneuterspringfield.org/feral-cat-info and here's a study describing what happens when one doesn't take this approach: https://www.dvm360.com/view/feral-cats-fed-not-cared https://www.dvm360.com/view/feral-cats-fed-not-cared All of these were on the first page of Google for 'feeding neutered feral cats only if fixed' or 'feeding neutered feral cats only if fixed study' What I'm suggesting is standard and recommended practice.
    - prvc 3y ago
      Those are advocacy websites (run by toxo+ cat lunatics), not reputable scientific publications.
      - ivraatiems 3y ago
        I literally cited a scientific study as my final link. But given that you think people who like cats are "toxo+ cat lunatics," I think there's no productivity in this exchange. You clearly have some really strong biases, and you've made clear what I was already inferring from your comments - you won't agree with anything that doesn't support your incorrect viewpoint.

by prvc 3y ago

ivraatiems 3y ago

> That's completely unfounded speculation and wishful-thinking. It's not 'speculation' to suggest that logically, an animal which is not hungry won't expend energy to hunt for food. > Basic decency demands that you don't facilitate this. Basic decency demands showing compassion to animals in need. But if there's one thing I'm seeing in this thread, it's lots of people who seem to think their views on these matters are moral universals. > Would you like for cats to deposit their parasite-laden (human-infecting, incurable) feces in your herb garden, where your children play, or directly outside of a window you need for ventilation? Do you even know how cats decide where to poop, or what they do with their feces? Cat feces doesn't just sit out, they bury them. While it's true feral animals - including many cats - harbor parasites, healthy cats are typically fastidiously clean. Much cleaner than dogs, and I should know, I have both. You have awfully strong opinions but they don't seem like they're based in much knowledge.

prvc 3y ago
>It's not 'speculation' to suggest that logically, an animal which is not hungry won't expend energy to hunt for food. Your argument remains as merely some vague hand-waving, still with no evidence presented.
- ivraatiems 3y ago
  It feels like you're being deliberately obtuse, but, here you go: https://www.unitedspayalliance.org/feral-cats-if-you-feed-them-please-fix-them/ https://www.unitedspayalliance.org/feral-cats-if-you-feed-th... https://www.felina-sicily.org/en/how-to/to-feed-or-not/ https://www.felina-sicily.org/en/how-to/to-feed-or-not/ https://www.feralcats.com/good-neighbor https://www.feralcats.com/good-neighbor https://spayneuterspringfield.org/feral-cat-info https://spayneuterspringfield.org/feral-cat-info and here's a study describing what happens when one doesn't take this approach: https://www.dvm360.com/view/feral-cats-fed-not-cared https://www.dvm360.com/view/feral-cats-fed-not-cared All of these were on the first page of Google for 'feeding neutered feral cats only if fixed' or 'feeding neutered feral cats only if fixed study' What I'm suggesting is standard and recommended practice.
  - prvc 3y ago
    Those are advocacy websites (run by toxo+ cat lunatics), not reputable scientific publications.
    - ivraatiems 3y ago
      I literally cited a scientific study as my final link. But given that you think people who like cats are "toxo+ cat lunatics," I think there's no productivity in this exchange. You clearly have some really strong biases, and you've made clear what I was already inferring from your comments - you won't agree with anything that doesn't support your incorrect viewpoint.