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> I think at this point, the real question is who in their right mind would ever build a game in Unity again? This is pretty unfortunate, because Unity is par

> I think at this point, the real question is who in their right mind would ever build a game in Unity again? This is pretty unfortunate, because Unity is partly responsible for the surge of Linux gaming over the last 10 years. Supporting Linux comes nearly for free on Unity (compared to many other engines), and fewer Unity games will likely mean fewer Linux games.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
Depends what they jump to; godot, for instance, should be similar AIUI?
- TylerE 3y ago
  Godot is never going to be able to ship for consoles due to license incompatibility. That's a pretty big dealbreaker for non-hobbyist projects that aren't exclusively targeting desktop.
  - kevingadd 3y ago
    Godot games have been shipped on consoles plenty of times
    - TylerE 3y ago
      There are paid, non open source forks that support console. Actual godot does not, and never will. From their own docs: “ Godot does not officially support consoles (save for XBox One via UWP) currently. The reasons for this are: To develop for consoles, one must be licensed as a company. Godot, as an open source project, does not have such a legal figure. Console SDKs are secret, and protected by non-disclosure agreements. Even if we could get access to them, we could not publish the code as open-source. Consoles require specialized hardware to develop for, so regular individuals can’t create games for them anyway”
      - flangola7 3y ago
        Why would an SDK be secret?
        patmorgan23 3y ago
        Because the console manufacturers want to protect their proprietary platforms.
        flangola7 3y ago
        Protect them from what?
        TylerE 3y ago
        Reputational damage. Big part of the appeal of consoles is “it just works”. That falls apart of you start letting random shovelware devs ship whatever.
        flangola7 3y ago
        That has nothing to do with SDK secrecy.
        dns_snek 3y ago
        Ok? What does that have to do with the SDK? Having access to the SDK doesn't give you unfettered access to publish on their stores. It only allows you to write and compile code targeting their hardware/runtime.
        throwaway7679 3y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983#Loss_of_publishing_control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983#Loss_... TLDR A game market flooded with shovelware crap is a disaster for everyone. Modern day consoles intentionally add hurdles/friction/cost to publishing in order to weed out the less serious studios.
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    Linux doesnt run on consoles though and the comment was about linux, which godot supports quite well. Once it gains popularity it will also sort out console issues.
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- numpad0 3y ago
  My humanGPT hallucination on the situation would be that because Unity is proprietary and Godot is open source, Unity runtime would be less diverse and more stable. How much of this is correct, I don't know though.
bookmark1231 3y ago
In my experience Proton works so well now that the only games that don’t work are those with really invasive anti-cheat systems
maccard 3y ago
Thankfully due to proton, unreal engine games (and home rolled engines) should just work out of the box too.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

Depends what they jump to; godot, for instance, should be similar AIUI?

TylerE 3y ago
Godot is never going to be able to ship for consoles due to license incompatibility. That's a pretty big dealbreaker for non-hobbyist projects that aren't exclusively targeting desktop.
- kevingadd 3y ago
  Godot games have been shipped on consoles plenty of times
  - TylerE 3y ago
    There are paid, non open source forks that support console. Actual godot does not, and never will. From their own docs: “ Godot does not officially support consoles (save for XBox One via UWP) currently. The reasons for this are: To develop for consoles, one must be licensed as a company. Godot, as an open source project, does not have such a legal figure. Console SDKs are secret, and protected by non-disclosure agreements. Even if we could get access to them, we could not publish the code as open-source. Consoles require specialized hardware to develop for, so regular individuals can’t create games for them anyway”
    - flangola7 3y ago
      Why would an SDK be secret?
      - patmorgan23 3y ago
        Because the console manufacturers want to protect their proprietary platforms.
        flangola7 3y ago
        Protect them from what?
        TylerE 3y ago
        Reputational damage. Big part of the appeal of consoles is “it just works”. That falls apart of you start letting random shovelware devs ship whatever.
        flangola7 3y ago
        That has nothing to do with SDK secrecy.
        dns_snek 3y ago
        Ok? What does that have to do with the SDK? Having access to the SDK doesn't give you unfettered access to publish on their stores. It only allows you to write and compile code targeting their hardware/runtime.
      - throwaway7679 3y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983#Loss_of_publishing_control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983#Loss_... TLDR A game market flooded with shovelware crap is a disaster for everyone. Modern day consoles intentionally add hurdles/friction/cost to publishing in order to weed out the less serious studios.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  Linux doesnt run on consoles though and the comment was about linux, which godot supports quite well. Once it gains popularity it will also sort out console issues.
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numpad0 3y ago
My humanGPT hallucination on the situation would be that because Unity is proprietary and Godot is open source, Unity runtime would be less diverse and more stable. How much of this is correct, I don't know though.

bookmark1231 3y ago

In my experience Proton works so well now that the only games that don’t work are those with really invasive anti-cheat systems

maccard 3y ago

Thankfully due to proton, unreal engine games (and home rolled engines) should just work out of the box too.