> > Others likely view this as making those places no longer wild nor Natural. When I say conquering it I don't mean pouring concrete or going there with RVs.

> > Others likely view this as making those places no longer wild nor Natural. When I say conquering it I don't mean pouring concrete or going there with RVs. I mean a small helicopter, a deltawing, a dirt bike, an ATV, a MTB etc. Stuff that is easily movable and nimble and that doesn't necessary require a road and would leave no trace of its passage. > > a reliance on things makes humans less useful? Absolutely, once upon a time every place was wild and dominated by Nature, hence those who wanted to measure themselves against Her only had to come out of their cave and it would be game on. Nowadays you need vehicles to reach wild areas because everywhere is populated by humans who have domesticated everything including themselves.