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I looked at the pics in the articles, and I do not see any of the things they say are painted.

blackoil 3y ago
Yeah, a red circle would have helped :|
gus_massa 3y ago
I think the first is quite clear. I mande a version in https://imgur.com/a/y1i3Tzv https://imgur.com/a/y1i3Tzv IANAA [1] I'm not sure if the nose is painted or is just a dark spot in the rock that I'm over interpreting. [1] You can interpret is as "I am not an Archeologist" or "I am not an Artist". Both are correct.
- deadalus 3y ago
  I have never seen a more cute deer. I wish all ancient drawings had such a version so we can easily interpret what they are talking about in the article. Early cave drawings are very hard to decipher.
  - marcellus23 3y ago
    It's an auroch, not a deer (actually the correct term seems to be "aurochs", but it's not what the article uses): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs
  - pvaldes 3y ago
    clearly a cow, yep. You missed the posterior ear
  - gus_massa 3y ago
    I saw a few of examples in biology. Here I got a random image from Google https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-14-126/figures/2 https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-... It shows a fossil of an insect in a stone, A and B are photos, C and D are hand drawings that show the important features. I'm not sure if it's common to superimpose the drawings, but in my case I thought it was better.
- koliber 3y ago
  Thank you for making this. It was hard to see anything before. After seeing your drawing, I see another way of interpreting this image. What if the bull is facing right and not left. The dark spot is his upper back. Can you see it that way too?
  - gus_massa 3y ago
    I can "see" a full bull facing right, the front legs are the neck in my drawing, but the rear legs are missing. Is that what you see? Anyway, the caption of the image says > The painted head of an auroch, an extinct wild bull, was the first painting archaeologists discovered in the cave. so I think it's only the head. The other drawings are also only the head, so it may be a local style/preference (???).
    - koliber 3y ago
      It’s exactly how you describe it. I also see it both ways. The gazelle is more visible, but the bull seems more like the auroch.
- RecycledEle 3y ago
  Thank You.
calibas 3y ago
Looking at these makes me wonder if I've just walked by ancient paintings and not even realized it.
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Yeah, a red circle would have helped :|

I think the first is quite clear. I mande a version in https://imgur.com/a/y1i3Tzv https://imgur.com/a/y1i3Tzv IANAA [1] I'm not sure if the nose is painted or is just a dark spot in the rock that I'm over interpreting. [1] You can interpret is as "I am not an Archeologist" or "I am not an Artist". Both are correct.

deadalus 3y ago
I have never seen a more cute deer. I wish all ancient drawings had such a version so we can easily interpret what they are talking about in the article. Early cave drawings are very hard to decipher.
- marcellus23 3y ago
  It's an auroch, not a deer (actually the correct term seems to be "aurochs", but it's not what the article uses): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs
- pvaldes 3y ago
  clearly a cow, yep. You missed the posterior ear
- gus_massa 3y ago
  I saw a few of examples in biology. Here I got a random image from Google https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-14-126/figures/2 https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-... It shows a fossil of an insect in a stone, A and B are photos, C and D are hand drawings that show the important features. I'm not sure if it's common to superimpose the drawings, but in my case I thought it was better.
koliber 3y ago
Thank you for making this. It was hard to see anything before. After seeing your drawing, I see another way of interpreting this image. What if the bull is facing right and not left. The dark spot is his upper back. Can you see it that way too?
- gus_massa 3y ago
  I can "see" a full bull facing right, the front legs are the neck in my drawing, but the rear legs are missing. Is that what you see? Anyway, the caption of the image says > The painted head of an auroch, an extinct wild bull, was the first painting archaeologists discovered in the cave. so I think it's only the head. The other drawings are also only the head, so it may be a local style/preference (???).
  - koliber 3y ago
    It’s exactly how you describe it. I also see it both ways. The gazelle is more visible, but the bull seems more like the auroch.
RecycledEle 3y ago
Thank You.

calibas 3y ago

Looking at these makes me wonder if I've just walked by ancient paintings and not even realized it.

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