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The Lightning connector was superior in many ways. I have no idea why everyone is celebrating this downgrade. You say it's a downgrade, but the only issues I'v

The Lightning connector was superior in many ways. I have no idea why everyone is celebrating this downgrade. You say it's a downgrade, but the only issues I've had with cables in this context are lightning connectors where the cable connector broke off into the device and required a good amount of work to get all the pieces out. And that's with only a single device using a lightning cable and many other devices that are USB-C.

buildbot 3y ago
Honest to whatever - How?! Those connectors seem like solid metal, seems like it would take ludicrous force to break it like that. So would a cable side USB-C connector - but in agreement with the grandparent comment that tab in the center port is pretty flimsy… and the ports themselves seem pretty wear happy, similar to how micro usb tended to break the port first after repeated insertion vs. a more easily replaceable cable.
- Goronmon 3y ago
  Those connectors seem like solid metal, seems like it would take ludicrous force to break it like that. Not that much force. Just a two year old who grabs something before you can stop them unfortunately.
  - buildbot 3y ago
    I posit in this case USB-C would also fail :) Or alternatively, that 2 year old sticks something in that port and breaks that little tab.
KennyBlanken 3y ago
In any case, this wouldn't be solved by USB-C. In fact, it'd be even worse, because instead of one chunky piece of metal with some bits inside, you'll have a mess of tiny plastic and long, unprotected connector pins, both in the device and on the cable connector. Also: Apple does not attach the lightning port to the mainboard of an iPhone, and thus it is easily replaced unlike damn near every Android phone where the connector is soldered onto the mainboard, purposefully, along with extremely fine pitch SMD components very close to the connector, to make it difficult to impossible to repair (the tiny SMD components will blow off the board if you use a hot air rework gun.)

buildbot 3y ago

Honest to whatever - How?! Those connectors seem like solid metal, seems like it would take ludicrous force to break it like that. So would a cable side USB-C connector - but in agreement with the grandparent comment that tab in the center port is pretty flimsy… and the ports themselves seem pretty wear happy, similar to how micro usb tended to break the port first after repeated insertion vs. a more easily replaceable cable.

Goronmon 3y ago
Those connectors seem like solid metal, seems like it would take ludicrous force to break it like that. Not that much force. Just a two year old who grabs something before you can stop them unfortunately.
- buildbot 3y ago
  I posit in this case USB-C would also fail :) Or alternatively, that 2 year old sticks something in that port and breaks that little tab.

KennyBlanken 3y ago

In any case, this wouldn't be solved by USB-C. In fact, it'd be even worse, because instead of one chunky piece of metal with some bits inside, you'll have a mess of tiny plastic and long, unprotected connector pins, both in the device and on the cable connector. Also: Apple does not attach the lightning port to the mainboard of an iPhone, and thus it is easily replaced unlike damn near every Android phone where the connector is soldered onto the mainboard, purposefully, along with extremely fine pitch SMD components very close to the connector, to make it difficult to impossible to repair (the tiny SMD components will blow off the board if you use a hot air rework gun.)