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It's infuriating. He talked to 40 people, some "very high level", which is ambigious sure but Grush himself was a Colonel equivlent when he was in the NGIA, bu
by swalsh 3y ago
It's infuriating. He talked to 40 people, some "very high level", which is ambigious sure but Grush himself was a Colonel equivlent when he was in the NGIA, but there is a significant amount of people inside the government who are directly telling Grusch we have this stuff. He gave the ISG all the evidence (documents etc) names, interviews etc. The ISG declared it an urgant concern (this is apparently seperate from the retaliation claims).
He goes and gives a summary of this stuff to congress, and random normal people say "oh there's no evidence", but he clearly HAD IT, AND gave it to the ISG. Congress asked to see it, and have been denied. Why are they being denied if there's nothing? How can congress properly perform their function of oversight if they keep getting denied requests?
What's frustrating is there's a sector of the government that seems happy to say "we haven't see any evidence, must be nothing" while at the same time the government is refusing to share the supposed evidence.
I think in 2017 I would have been one of the skeptical people, but the more I watch this play out, it's cystal clear there is something and there is a group of people in our government who want it out there, and a group of people in our government who absolutely do not.
- celtoid 3y agoSo either parts of the US government have been lying about for years about not having "alien" bodies and tech or parts of the US government are lying now about having "alien" bodies and tech. In five years, a "conspiracy theorist" will be defined as someone who refuses to believe the propaganda from on high about UFOs/UAPs.
- empyrrhicist 3y agoEvidence of what though? My problem is with the unfounded claims/implications/hype/grift that it might be aliens. There are lots of interesting nonmagical explanations for the reported phenomena, that we should absolutely pin down. These distinctions matter. The problem is that there's a whole conspiratorial ecosystem which has been thriving on the news/testimony.
- swalsh 3y agoPeople use the word conspiracy to imply "obvious bullshit", but sometimes there are real conspiracies, and this might be one.
- empyrrhicist 3y agoWell my BS detector is going crazy at the vague insinuations you're using for sure... "this" meaning aliens? FFS...
- kcplate 3y agoIt’s made out to be a big deal but nothing he said revealed anything new. It’s all been part of the lore for decades. He wasn’t a direct witness and all he gave was hearsay. He basically testified that some people he trusted told him things and showed him some documents. The only difference than all of the past revelations is that congress let him testify. Honestly it was disappointing to me. Someone with his bonafides standing up, raising a hand, and testifying in congress that they have been inside one of these things, was part of the program revere engineering them, or gave an alien a handy would be an interesting development. Until that time, I chalk this up to simply more of the same blurry assumptive evidence that looks a little too much like a pie plate.