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Isn’t the reason for the empty space just because it’s a tablet — by which I mean that the dimensions are determined by a large screen? Phones are dense inside
by pohl 3y ago
Isn’t the reason for the empty space just because it’s a tablet — by which I mean that the dimensions are determined by a large screen? Phones are dense inside because they have to be small.
- Etheryte 3y agoI mean, if you have space left over you could just pack it with more battery? For example if we look at the iPad [0], there is some empty space inside, but mostly it's all battery. [0] https://youtu.be/uCYUZQGjm8I?si=D-fpaRSSCkbOdReo&t=75 https://youtu.be/uCYUZQGjm8I?si=D-fpaRSSCkbOdReo&t=75
- ReactiveJelly 3y agoMight as well keep it cheap, though
- ithkuil 3y agothe amount of stuff you cram in also affects the weight (as well as the price)
- ithkuil 3y ago^^^ I don't understand how's that sentence controversial or rude I mean, what's the difference of how you distribute empty space in a product, either having a few high density components and empty space visible by naked eye, or using less dense material where empty space is between molecules
- ClumsyPilot 3y agowhat is 'less dense' component, is the battery full of air?
- ithkuil 3y agoNo, my point is that the battery has the density it has. I mean, you have a weigh budget, you have cost budget, you have a width/height budget, you also have a thickness budget chosen for many reason including the material the case is made of (which is determined by your cost budget); you take all those things into account and if it turns out your component have the density they have, it may just happen that you have some free space in the box. The fact that a competitor's product doesn't have as much empty space in the case must come down to them having a different tradeoff in some of those design dimensions.
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoby that logic there is no such thing as bad product, they just took different tradeoffs.
- ithkuil 3y agothere are different ways a product can be bad: 1. it could have had good requirements but badly executed 2. the chosen requirements could be bad and despite flawless execution the product is crap I just think that the quantity of empty space inside of the encasement, is not a reason to label something a bad product. It makes no difference to the end user except for the "feeling" that something could have been added to it. But as I said, the moment you add something into that empty space you make the device heavier and thus perhaps you turn an otherwise good product into a bad product because it's too heavy.
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- itsoktocry 3y agoYou could, but that adds weight and cost.
- 37521804 3y agoThe basic iPad costs $449 and the Pixel Tablet costs $499. The iPad weighs less than the Pixel tablet, 477g to 493g. The iPad battery is 28.6Wh and the Pixel Tablet has a 27Wh battery. I don't particularly care that the insides are 'emptier' in the Pixel Tablet, but to say they didn't do something because of weight or cost doesn't really appear to have any bearing considering it's the heavier, more expensive tablet.
- itsoktocry 3y ago>but to say they didn't do something because of weight or cost doesn't really appear to have any bearing considering it's the heavier, more expensive tablet. So they should have made it heavier and more expensive? I don't understand your argument.
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoAnd what am I paying for, an empty shell?
- kibwen 3y agoYou're paying for a tablet based on the utility that it gives you. If we could shrink every component except for the screen down to the size of a pin head, then, yeah, you'd be paying for a mostly empty shell, and that's not a problem in the slightest.
- brudgers 3y agoCooling.
- drcongo 3y agoThat's not what the inside of a good tablet looks like though right?
- pohl 3y agoWell, no, but how would a good tablet bring them a large enough increase in ad revenue to make it worth the investment? That’s what the difference in business models naturally leads to, right? There’s no indication that Google is trying to change what kind of company they are, is there?
- drcongo 3y agoExactly.
- kibwen 3y agoThis question strikes me as bizarre. What is the causal relationship between the goodness of a tablet and what its inside looks like?
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoimagine someone wrote something this silly abour a car - "what is the casual relatio ship between how the performance of the car and what it looks lile under the whood? So what if the engine is a mess, surely thst does not affect how it drives"?
- kibwen 3y agoThere's nothing that's a mess about the inside of this tablet, it's just not filled to the brim with stuff that it doesn't need. That's normal, good design.
- Shish2k 3y agoI opened up the hood of a car once and there was loads of empty space inside there. Why are they not filling up every cubic inch of the engine compartment with more pistons, or making the compartment water-tight and then filling it with even more petrol to increase the car’s range? Admittedly I don’t know a single thing about car design, but surely all of that empty space is an indicator of poor design right?
- jwells89 3y agoIn most tablets the extra space is filled with more battery, better cooling, bigger speakers, SD card slot, more ports… lots of possibilities. Here’s what the inside of a 2020 iPad Air (10.9”) looks like for example. Still a little empty space, but much more full. https://i.ibb.co/hRKhPRP/IMG-2853.jpg https://i.ibb.co/hRKhPRP/IMG-2853.jpg
- kibwen 3y agoAnd an iPad Air costs between $600 and $800. If you want to hit a lower price point, it makes sense to just put less stuff inside. "The case isn't full" is not a metric that anyone should give a whit about, as long as the size of the case is determined by other factors (in this case, the dimensions of the screen).
- jwells89 3y agoAt lower price points I’d probably be looking for a smaller tablet where the battery is better matched with the screen size so battery life isn’t terrible.
- dahauns 3y agoThe OG IPad: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Image/meta/y5HAM4cflO64B3QH https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Image/meta/y5HAM4cflO64B3QH
- fortran77 3y agoBut it's Apple so it's perfect!
- jwells89 3y agoAnd that was in 2010, before they knew if the product category was going to work or not, which is a better use case for tossing mismatched off the shelf parts into a chassis. After tablets proved themselves a viable market, iPad parts became more custom-designed and closely fit together.
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