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How good is C++ Builder? Ever tried? I Saw It a couple of years ago and it looked good actually but noone seems to use it.

pjmlp 3y ago
Like I described, is like using VB for the GUI stuff, coupled with the C++ capabilities. Additionally it has a symbiotic relationship with Delphi, similarly to how C# and C++/CLI are integrated, only much better. Nowadays the compiler backend is based in clang.
georgehaake 3y ago
Historically a great tool along with Delphi, with poor subsequent management/ownership since the very early 2000's.
deaddodo 3y ago
Imagine classic Visual C++ with it's form builder (versus the modern WinRT stuff) and hooks...it's much like that. I would say the experience is a little smoother. I do remember the version I used to use had issues with the form builder to where getting exactly what you wanted was finicky (the rendered/preview version was never quite what the compiled version ended up as).
- pjmlp 3y ago
  If only VC++ ever had a form builder for C++ like C++ Builder has been doing for 30 years.
  - deaddodo 3y ago
    https://softelvdm.com/Vault/softelvdm.com/documentation/SftMask%20OCX%206.5/image/vc6/using1.gif https://softelvdm.com/Vault/softelvdm.com/documentation/SftM...
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      Resource editor for dialogs isn't the same as the C++ Builder experience.
      - deaddodo 3y ago
        Whatever you say.
        badsectoracula 3y ago
        ...is correct. Visual C++ has a visual resource editor, but this isn't what C++ Builder does. C++ Builder edits live objects, you declare a class with its properties (this needs extensions to the C++ language) and during design time the object is instantiated and edited visually through the property editor ("object inspector"). This works for both visual (buttons, controls, etc) and non-visual objects. The difference between what VC++ does and what C++ Builder (and Delphi) does is massive and at a very fundamental level.
        deaddodo 3y ago
        Cool.
  - jbandela1 3y ago
    Visual C++ 1.0 had AppStudio https://ia800108.us.archive.org/5/items/MicrosoftVisualStudioC1.01993/IMG_0007.JPG https://ia800108.us.archive.org/5/items/MicrosoftVisualStudi...
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      Visual editors for Windows resources in MFC aren't the same as C++ Builder VB like capabilities.

pjmlp 3y ago

Like I described, is like using VB for the GUI stuff, coupled with the C++ capabilities. Additionally it has a symbiotic relationship with Delphi, similarly to how C# and C++/CLI are integrated, only much better. Nowadays the compiler backend is based in clang.

georgehaake 3y ago

Historically a great tool along with Delphi, with poor subsequent management/ownership since the very early 2000's.

deaddodo 3y ago

Imagine classic Visual C++ with it's form builder (versus the modern WinRT stuff) and hooks...it's much like that. I would say the experience is a little smoother. I do remember the version I used to use had issues with the form builder to where getting exactly what you wanted was finicky (the rendered/preview version was never quite what the compiled version ended up as).

pjmlp 3y ago
If only VC++ ever had a form builder for C++ like C++ Builder has been doing for 30 years.
- deaddodo 3y ago
  https://softelvdm.com/Vault/softelvdm.com/documentation/SftMask%20OCX%206.5/image/vc6/using1.gif https://softelvdm.com/Vault/softelvdm.com/documentation/SftM...
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    Resource editor for dialogs isn't the same as the C++ Builder experience.
    - deaddodo 3y ago
      Whatever you say.
      - badsectoracula 3y ago
        ...is correct. Visual C++ has a visual resource editor, but this isn't what C++ Builder does. C++ Builder edits live objects, you declare a class with its properties (this needs extensions to the C++ language) and during design time the object is instantiated and edited visually through the property editor ("object inspector"). This works for both visual (buttons, controls, etc) and non-visual objects. The difference between what VC++ does and what C++ Builder (and Delphi) does is massive and at a very fundamental level.
        deaddodo 3y ago
        Cool.
- jbandela1 3y ago
  Visual C++ 1.0 had AppStudio https://ia800108.us.archive.org/5/items/MicrosoftVisualStudioC1.01993/IMG_0007.JPG https://ia800108.us.archive.org/5/items/MicrosoftVisualStudi...
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    Visual editors for Windows resources in MFC aren't the same as C++ Builder VB like capabilities.