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> piece of garbage That’s pushing it. You’re entitled to dislike that it’s proprietary, but Plex works great. You can like an alternative better without shitti

by thiht 3y ago

> piece of garbage That’s pushing it. You’re entitled to dislike that it’s proprietary, but Plex works great. You can like an alternative better without shitting on Plex for no reason

shyn3 3y ago
True it's a hot piece of garbage. Enshittification is probably a better word.
- Larrikin 3y ago
  It's not though. You are both speaking in hyperbole. Plex is actually objectively better than Jellyfin. Skipping intros still doesn't work consistently in Jellyfin. But it is a company and I am glad that there is serious competition from Jellyfin. It isn't a publicly traded company, so pressure from an open source product can push it to be better and not necessarily turn it in to a money grab that makes the product shit. They've made some missteps the community hasn't liked, but they have also had improvements as well.
  - earthling8118 3y ago
    To me it seems "objectively better" and "capable of shutting down your server remotely due to your server host" don't belong in the same solar system.
    - joshstrange 3y ago
      That's a recipe for an unhappy life IMHO. If I stopped using every service/product/business that did things I didn't approve of I'd be compiling my own linux distro (kill me) and probably growing all my food (of course where are you going to morally get some of the seeds you need?). This kind of black/white thinking is harmful. Plex "just works" for the family I share it with, I have zero interest in being 24/7 tech support so I don't use things like Jellyfin. If this UI/UX improves enough then I might consider it but everyone I've shared my Plex with has been able to use it without peppering me with 100 questions. I seriously doubt the same would be true for Jellyfin.
      - shyn3 3y ago
        You can just buy IPTV and and a Chromecast and disregard the headache of everything else. Megacubo for pCs. Plex was great but they have slowly just destroyed their brand loyalty.
        Larrikin 3y ago
        IPTV sounds like a poor replacement for paying for access to content you don't control on someone else's Plex server, not a replacement for running your own Plex server with only content you want.
        shyn3 3y ago
        You run your own IPTV and then you use the available clients to stream your catalog. It works impressively well. Xsteve, tvheadend and stream River are options
kasabali 3y ago
> shitting on Plex for no reason I thought the reason was obvious (it's the first word of first sentence of the parent comment)
rewmie 3y ago
> You can like an alternative better without shitting on Plex for no reason Have you not noticed the topic you are commenting on? It's pretty clear why Plex is now unusable for a significant number of users. Other commenters likened Plex to a honeypot. How did you fail to be aware of that fact?
- tmpX7dMeXU 3y ago
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thefurdrake 3y ago
> no reason 1) The UI is trash, bloated and unreliable. 2) The UI regularly tries to convince me to look at their junk TV/movie sales pages. 3) The UI doesn't provide proper feedback during the media library tagging/discovery process. 4) Oh yeah even though it's hosted in my network only using resources in my network, it feels the need to call home regularly. Sorry, you seemed confused, and I'm not the person you're replying to, but I thought I'd help you out anyway. This list isn't comprehensive, but it should at least help you understand people might actually be shitting on Plex for actual reasons that exist :)
- tmpX7dMeXU 3y ago
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  - thefurdrake 3y ago
    Snarky? Absolutely. Vitriolic? Please, spare me. You might be upset that I chose to convey my data in a tone you dislike, but don't pretend my reasons aren't valid. Also, practice what you preach-- community guidelines say to flag and move on if you find objectionable behavior. It's telling that you chose to avoid addressing the content of what I said in favor of shifting focus to tone.
  - rewmie 3y ago
    > This a similarly needlessly vitriolic and snarky comment. You're the same sock puppet account who posted the following message: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37523888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37523888
    - thefurdrake 3y ago
      ... This really should have been obvious to me before replying to him, but I didn't check the post history first. Maybe I should start doing that for such blatantly-obvious poor-faith throwaways.
- thiht 3y ago
  Doesn’t help. I disagree on 1, I actually like Plex UI and it mostly works fine for me. It’s especially useful in that I have official apps everywhere (tv, smartphone, laptop), I can chromecast, and I can download movies locally on my phone. All that reliably. For 2, it’s just a tab you can hide no? I think I had that the first time I used Plex, but I’ve not seen that in months… 3 is true, the discovery process is too opaque, especially when it doesn’t find one of your files. 4 is not a UI complaint but a technical complaint. None of that makes it garbage.
BorisMelnik 3y ago
agree, it may have shortcomings but "piece of garbage" is something that does not fit, its one of the longest running apps of its kind with the largest user base of superfans

by thiht 3y ago

> piece of garbage That’s pushing it. You’re entitled to dislike that it’s proprietary, but Plex works great. You can like an alternative better without shitting on Plex for no reason

shyn3 3y ago

True it's a hot piece of garbage. Enshittification is probably a better word.

Larrikin 3y ago
It's not though. You are both speaking in hyperbole. Plex is actually objectively better than Jellyfin. Skipping intros still doesn't work consistently in Jellyfin. But it is a company and I am glad that there is serious competition from Jellyfin. It isn't a publicly traded company, so pressure from an open source product can push it to be better and not necessarily turn it in to a money grab that makes the product shit. They've made some missteps the community hasn't liked, but they have also had improvements as well.
- earthling8118 3y ago
  To me it seems "objectively better" and "capable of shutting down your server remotely due to your server host" don't belong in the same solar system.
  - joshstrange 3y ago
    That's a recipe for an unhappy life IMHO. If I stopped using every service/product/business that did things I didn't approve of I'd be compiling my own linux distro (kill me) and probably growing all my food (of course where are you going to morally get some of the seeds you need?). This kind of black/white thinking is harmful. Plex "just works" for the family I share it with, I have zero interest in being 24/7 tech support so I don't use things like Jellyfin. If this UI/UX improves enough then I might consider it but everyone I've shared my Plex with has been able to use it without peppering me with 100 questions. I seriously doubt the same would be true for Jellyfin.
    - shyn3 3y ago
      You can just buy IPTV and and a Chromecast and disregard the headache of everything else. Megacubo for pCs. Plex was great but they have slowly just destroyed their brand loyalty.
      - Larrikin 3y ago
        IPTV sounds like a poor replacement for paying for access to content you don't control on someone else's Plex server, not a replacement for running your own Plex server with only content you want.
        shyn3 3y ago
        You run your own IPTV and then you use the available clients to stream your catalog. It works impressively well. Xsteve, tvheadend and stream River are options

kasabali 3y ago

> shitting on Plex for no reason I thought the reason was obvious (it's the first word of first sentence of the parent comment)

rewmie 3y ago

> You can like an alternative better without shitting on Plex for no reason Have you not noticed the topic you are commenting on? It's pretty clear why Plex is now unusable for a significant number of users. Other commenters likened Plex to a honeypot. How did you fail to be aware of that fact?

tmpX7dMeXU 3y ago
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thefurdrake 3y ago

> no reason 1) The UI is trash, bloated and unreliable. 2) The UI regularly tries to convince me to look at their junk TV/movie sales pages. 3) The UI doesn't provide proper feedback during the media library tagging/discovery process. 4) Oh yeah even though it's hosted in my network only using resources in my network, it feels the need to call home regularly. Sorry, you seemed confused, and I'm not the person you're replying to, but I thought I'd help you out anyway. This list isn't comprehensive, but it should at least help you understand people might actually be shitting on Plex for actual reasons that exist :)

tmpX7dMeXU 3y ago
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- thefurdrake 3y ago
  Snarky? Absolutely. Vitriolic? Please, spare me. You might be upset that I chose to convey my data in a tone you dislike, but don't pretend my reasons aren't valid. Also, practice what you preach-- community guidelines say to flag and move on if you find objectionable behavior. It's telling that you chose to avoid addressing the content of what I said in favor of shifting focus to tone.
- rewmie 3y ago
  > This a similarly needlessly vitriolic and snarky comment. You're the same sock puppet account who posted the following message: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37523888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37523888
  - thefurdrake 3y ago
    ... This really should have been obvious to me before replying to him, but I didn't check the post history first. Maybe I should start doing that for such blatantly-obvious poor-faith throwaways.
thiht 3y ago
Doesn’t help. I disagree on 1, I actually like Plex UI and it mostly works fine for me. It’s especially useful in that I have official apps everywhere (tv, smartphone, laptop), I can chromecast, and I can download movies locally on my phone. All that reliably. For 2, it’s just a tab you can hide no? I think I had that the first time I used Plex, but I’ve not seen that in months… 3 is true, the discovery process is too opaque, especially when it doesn’t find one of your files. 4 is not a UI complaint but a technical complaint. None of that makes it garbage.

BorisMelnik 3y ago

agree, it may have shortcomings but "piece of garbage" is something that does not fit, its one of the longest running apps of its kind with the largest user base of superfans