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Look at the millions of free to play games in the App-Stores. Normally you have 98% of free playing users paying nothing, 2% pay. Imagine now you have 1 millio

by progx 3y ago

Look at the millions of free to play games in the App-Stores. Normally you have 98% of free playing users paying nothing, 2% pay. Imagine now you have 1 million installs. 2% (20.000) pay you 200.000 / year. 980.000 players pay nothing. Now Unity want 1.000.000 x 20 Cent = 200.000, you made ZERO with your game... crazy. That is an uncalculatable risk for a small company.

JCharante 3y ago
So maybe it’ll force companies to stop making freemium trash that only targets the 2% whales and actually make good games?
- alpaca128 3y ago
  No, it will make companies switch to Godot (where they have to pay nothing, ever) or Unreal (where they pay 5% for payments above a $1M threshold). For many developers it is now cheaper to switch the engine than to pay for Unity.
  - qwytw 3y ago
    > For many developers it is now cheaper to switch the engine than to pay for Unity. Only for a (possibly very) small minority. I find the the fact that they had no qualms about retroactively applying this to already released game much more infuriating (if they did this, what can they do next?). The pricing itself seems fairly reasonable if make more $1.5-2 or so per user (compared to Unreal anyway).
qwytw 3y ago
You'd only pay above a million user and need to have above in 1 million revenue. Previously you weren't even allowed to use Pro/Personal if you made over $200k (not just per game). > Now Unity want 1.000.000 x 20 Cent = 200.000, Not saying the whole price model is not stupid but only those developers who are very bad at basic math would pay this. Everyone else would upgrade to pro. > Now Unity want 1.000.000 x 20 Cent = 200.000 Again, not really. Even in this case only a subset of user would pay 20 cent. Another example demonstrating the incompetence of Unity's marketing department, they should've understood that most people can't really memorize more than a single number or be expected to spend over 30 seconds reading something (now I'm not saying that this change overall was not a terrible decision but even a significant proportion of people commenting here don't seem to understand how their per install pricing is going to work).

by progx 3y ago

JCharante 3y ago

So maybe it’ll force companies to stop making freemium trash that only targets the 2% whales and actually make good games?

alpaca128 3y ago
No, it will make companies switch to Godot (where they have to pay nothing, ever) or Unreal (where they pay 5% for payments above a $1M threshold). For many developers it is now cheaper to switch the engine than to pay for Unity.
- qwytw 3y ago
  > For many developers it is now cheaper to switch the engine than to pay for Unity. Only for a (possibly very) small minority. I find the the fact that they had no qualms about retroactively applying this to already released game much more infuriating (if they did this, what can they do next?). The pricing itself seems fairly reasonable if make more $1.5-2 or so per user (compared to Unreal anyway).

qwytw 3y ago

You'd only pay above a million user and need to have above in 1 million revenue. Previously you weren't even allowed to use Pro/Personal if you made over $200k (not just per game). > Now Unity want 1.000.000 x 20 Cent = 200.000, Not saying the whole price model is not stupid but only those developers who are very bad at basic math would pay this. Everyone else would upgrade to pro. > Now Unity want 1.000.000 x 20 Cent = 200.000 Again, not really. Even in this case only a subset of user would pay 20 cent. Another example demonstrating the incompetence of Unity's marketing department, they should've understood that most people can't really memorize more than a single number or be expected to spend over 30 seconds reading something (now I'm not saying that this change overall was not a terrible decision but even a significant proportion of people commenting here don't seem to understand how their per install pricing is going to work).